Postzegels/Persoonlijke zegels

Rein

Goed stanpunt van kaders:

Dit is werk van een beheerder en deze heeft dezelfde gedachte als jij.

Zo komen wij verder

Jij mag aanvullingen geven

Micho Rooseboom

Ik heb een overzicht klaar van de kaders die we willen gaan gebruiken voor de "zelfgemaakte" Persoonlijke postzegels, de komende maanden wil ik bij alle ingevoerde zegels de serienamen gaan aanpassen in de nieuwe namen:

 2006 Paars kader

2007 Paars kader

2007 Bedrijfspostzegel

2008 Oranje kader

2008 Grijs kader

2008 Decemberzegels

2009 Blauw kader

2010 Oranje en rood kader

2010 Grijs kader

2010 Blauw kader

2010 Bedrijfspostzegel

2010 Decemberzegels

2012 Grijs kader Europa

2012 Grijs kader Wereld  

Clean

Good point of view of frames:

This is the work of an administrator and they have the same thinking as you.

That's how we get on

You may add additions

Michael Rooseboom

I have an overview ready of the frames that we want to use for the "homemade" Personal stamps, in the coming months I want to adjust the series names to the new names for all imported stamps:

 2006 Purple frame

2007 Purple frame

2007 Company stamp

2008 Orange frame

2008 Gray frame

2008 December Stamps

2009 Blue frame

2010 Orange and red frame

2010 Gray frame

2010 Blue frame

2010 Company stamp

2010 December Stamps

2012 Gray frame Europe

2012 Gray frame World 

Micho,

the names of the frames is no problem! Black or gray ?! With the value indication! 39, 44c, "1" etc ... Years?

At least, what is 2010 orange and red?

See also my:

http://www.galeoptix.nl/fila/ned/nl_pers.htm

http://www.galeoptix.nl/fila/ned/nl_pers_kader.htm

everything still in a further state of intent ...

These box markers are - I keep repeating it! - NO series of indications!

greetings, Rein

@Micho,

Too bad another unilateral decision was taken.

This shows again the rigidity of the administrators.

That is a pity! It is becoming a brake on Stamps.

Also a pity you are already another knowledgeable (although I do not always agree with you but I don't have to) who gives up

@sinbad

That is a pity! It is becoming a brake on Stamps.

And make the mood, eh? You don't know what you are talking about.

@Micho

Certainly not the intention with regard to rigidity of deer2. He has been working as an administrator for some time to make a logical division of the personal stamps, not an easy job. Had the impression that you previously agreed somewhat on the set-up. From there he started changing all series titles.

I also see that you make a major contribution to the content of this section. Too bad if you stopped doing that.

@Postmaster,

Fortunately, we (finally) agree on something about your last sentence.

Too bad another unilateral decision was taken.

This shows again the rigidity of the administrators.

That is a pity! It is becoming a brake on Stamps.

And make the mood, eh? You don't know what you are talking about.

Typical that Micho (may) say it, but if I say it .........

Can a manager - who is nothing more and nothing less than a manager - when it comes to substantive matters, listen to people who know about something substantively ????

greetings, Rein

@Reintje

In terms of content they can never win, that's why they play on the man (in the schoolyard we called it bullying)

on the football field they call it foul play!

I think it's a shame that the messages have been deleted. (emails)

It made the vision very clear.

Notifications would not harm any administrator. The addresses were deleted. So it was a discussion that in my opinion should be conducted through the forum. I have no problem with my e-mail address being visible. I did this myself.

I am not going to repeat everything again, that became clear from the e-mails and I largely agreed with Rein. His vision was also my vision.

The current basis is incorrect and the structure is too narrow. The discussion was still ongoing but the decision had already been taken. This is not democracy and this does not serve CW.

Micho.

Micho

You are simply not allowed to post private mails on the forum.

Haven't you also had contact with the administrator yourself outside the forum on this topic? Why not contact him to work this out. That makes it easier, because his side of the story is now not public and that does not give others an honest view of things.

PMG,

why should Hertje2 not interfere in the discussion here ???? Can stamp managers only communicate with each other and excommunicate others?

greetings, Rein

Super Custodians of Stamps

postmaster

Stamp Managers

briefmarke

renic

tapir

Sub-area managers

carel1

drgizmo

elizabeth

deer2

Jodieke

NEW-ZEALAND

rembrandt

renic

Sippowitz

Who does what in the sub-areas ????

Stamp friends.

I step over my shadow and start the discussion again.

Here is an overview for the bulk of the personal stamps

'For the year 2011, the division will be further expanded because of the range

gets bigger.

When it becomes clear that personal stamps belong together, we can create an extra serial number.

Then everything comes together in groups and that has already happened in many cases, in collaboration with deer.

So there is already a structure and this is a refinement of the bulk format.

You can shoot it.

This overview has been compiled by deer. I have only supplemented it and incorporated the ideas of Rein and mine into it.

2006 Purple frame (€ 0.39), corporate

2006 Purple frame (€ 0.39), private

2007 Purple frame (€ 0.44), corporate

2007 Purple frame (€ 0.44), private

2007 Company Postage Stamp (€ 0.44)

2008 Orange frame (€ 0.44), corporate

2008 Orange frame (€ 0.44), private

2008 Gray frame (€ 0.44), corporate

2008 Gray frame (€ 0.44), private

2008 December stamps (red / green) (€ 0.34)

2009 Blue frame (small) (€ 0.44), corporate

2009 Blue frame (small) (€ 0.44), private

2010 Orange and red frame (1), corporate

2010 Orange and red frame (1), private

2010 Gray box (1), business

2010 Gray box (1), private

2010 Blue frame (small) (44 cents), business

2010 Blue frame (small) (44 euro cents), private

2010 Company Postage Stamp (1)

2010 December Stamps (red / green)

2011 Blue frame (small) (1), corporate

2011 Blue frame (small) (1), private

2011 Blue frame (small) (1), foundations / associations

2011 Gray Box (large) (1), business

2011 Gray Frame (large) (1), private

2011 Gray Box (large) (1), foundations / associations

2012 Gray frame, (1), corporate

2012 Gray box, (1), private

2012 Gray frame Europe (1)

2012 Gray frame World (1)

Please reply

Micho Rooseboom

Micho,

I will refrain from comment for a moment, but DEFINITELY come back to it ...

greetings, Rein

PMG,

why should Hertje2 not interfere in the discussion here ???? Can stamp managers only communicate with each other and excommunicate others?

greetings, Rein

Excuse me? Where do you get this nonsense from?

Where do the above mentioned administrators of CW-PZ go in the discussions ???

And are PZ managers not happy? Coincidence?

@ Rein

The reason you don't hear me on the forum has nothing to do with the fact that I'm an administrator. Catawiki is a nice thing for me, and on the forum I see far too many negative, even aggressive and offensive messages. There was even a private email exchange from me posted on the forum, absolutely indecent and unheard of.

For me in the forum it is much too much about the discussion about the discussion and there is often no solution-oriented communication.

Because I found the layout of the Personal Stamps could be improved, I made a schedule that I discussed with the other administrators and also shared with Micho. Not perfect, but the first start is made to get it better and more beautiful. Then, because I don't immediately make all the desired adjustments, because I also have an opinion myself, I immediately get whole buckets of shit thrown over me while I communicate properly with everyone and commit myself as a voluntary manager on Catawiki.

If the tone on the forum remains as it usually is now, I advise you to save this message, it may become a collector's item, because often you will not see me on the forum again.

Harry

Harry,

I didn't see any excrement flying past here, so exaggerating is also an art!

I have already stated why I am raising things in this forum and that is certainly not because of a thread for a discussion.

If you stumble upon the inconsistency and inconsistently devised fields and compulsory input when entering data, then you have no choice but to go to the Forum and complain there. If you are referred to the Suggestions Happening in the Forum, you know that you are being sent from pillar to post. Meanwhile, the Forum shows that the handling of certain problems endlessly stagnates on the cooperation of administrators ... And that long before I started interfering ...

I have tried to mediate in emails to you and you do not respond to that! Do you see that as a provocation on my part?

Administrators must respond adequately to signals from users and when they start to interpret those signals as provocations or something, they better give the pipe to maarten ...

greetings, Rein

Rein,

It depends on what you are used to and what your decency standards are. If a private mail from me is posted on the forum without my knowledge / permission and if people find something about me on the forum without bothering to wait for my direct reply ...

You have tried to mediate in emails to me, and I am not responding to that. You are now referring to an email sent today, 5.44 pm, do you sometimes think that I spend all day at my computer? We are now less than six hours later and I have answered all your emails, haven't I? And did I use the word provocation? Why are you using this word anyway?

If you think that responding within a quarter of a day is the measure for an administrator, then I am indeed unsuitable as an administrator, I agree. But I think you now also see that this statement of yours is a bit unbelievable.

I appreciate your knowledge and skills, but please also keep in mind that there are many other enthusiasts on Catawiki (even administrators) who just enjoy collecting, and let these people be their value, they are the really important people for Catawiki.

Kind regards,

Harry

Harry,

Discussion for the sake of discussion is provocation!

I will go with you for 90%, just that last sentence ....

greetings, Rein

@Reintjedevos

If you're going with Harry, why not apologize? If you don't know this last word, you can look it up in the van Dale dictionary to find out what it could mean ...

Tapir,

apology for what ??? I have not posted any mails from Harry in the Forum!

Hertje2 wrote:

The reason you don't hear me on the forum has nothing to do with the fact that I'm an administrator. Catawiki is a nice thing for me, and on the forum I see way too many negative, even aggressive and offensive messages.

Ted wrote:

Many statements are only made to lure people out of their tent and make statements that can be responded to in an almost fun way.

In recent weeks we have received many similar messages from users who are more than fed up with the tone on the stamp forum. Despite warnings, Rein and Sinbad's tone remains hurtful, compelling and contemptuous without much self-insight. We have given up hope that this will change. It is fine to have strong differences of opinion in terms of content and to discuss it vigorously, there are still plenty of things that have not been crystallized in the stamp section and there is still a lot to improve, but not in this destructive way. The accounts of Rein and Sinbad are therefore blocked. This is a serious measure, but we no longer see any other solution. At some point it stops. Hopefully we can now continue the substantive discussions in a calmer, more constructive way with respect for each other and more stamp collectors and managers will feel at home in the forum again and participate in the discussion.

René and Marco

Harry

I think the communication between us went well.

Several positive steps have been taken in the right direction.

Some structure, with the personal stamps, has already been created.

But I also think that this discussion should not be conducted via private e-mails, but via the forum.

This promotes perspiration.

Your emails showed that a position was taken with the "" administrators "" while the discussion was still in full swing. It also appeared that imports had started. Decency standards?

You have merely translated and disproved their standpoint.

I wanted to expose with the email.

By the way, I see these e-mails as business e-mails and they do not contain any personal (private) subjects.

It is clear that the emails revealed painful facts and that is why they were quickly removed.

We were still talking to each other and the forum and email exchange went past each other.

I should have asked you if I could have used the emails? Had I received a positive answer to that? I think I already know the answer,

The "" wiki "" thing is still in its infancy. Catawiki is not owned by the collectors. This is now clear: the administrators determine the policy.

Harry to you I would like to apologize for using the emails.

But standards of decency are also exceeded by the administrators. How many times have I asked for an answer through the forum, it is no longer countable on one hand.

I also notice that because of the "" very tall trees of the administrators, "" is often discussed via private emails.

Maybe it is time for the administrators to form a unity. Between the lines people fall apart.

This is just an outsider's comment.

Sincerely,

Micho Rooseboom