Stamps/Stamp & Coin Auction219 messages

exactly cw should not become a dw

dump wikiie

we dig our own grave so now there are still nice yields

@ arco don't you have any count of rene? for such an important issue?

an entrepreneur never has a 100% vacation

For the time being, I take responsibility for placing the upcoming auctions, even if some lots are not entirely in accordance with the current rules.

Jos, the point is that you not on your own behalf, but on behalf of Catawiki.
And Catawiki, we all are.

You cannot do this on your own responsibility.
We as administrators also have a responsibility, namely taking care of that the rules are observed.

@ arco don't you have any count of rene? for such an important issue?

an entrepreneur never has a 100% vacation

That's how I am in it, yes. But he has - as far as I understand it - known that he is really not available until September 3. That is his right, of course, but one more reason for everyone to adhere to the applicable rules during that period.

You know ... There is really something unreal about it if the volunteers are more concerned about the course of affairs at Catawiki than the paid staff. That's actually the most annoying thing about this issue.

And - mark my words - we are later told that we played it too hard and that we see it all too black and white.

Het gaat ook zeker niet ten koste van, want als we iemand zouden verplichten om bijvoorbeeld 300 zegels te koppelen en er dan ook nog eens 200 aan te maken omdat ze nog niet in de Catawiki catalogus staan, gaat hij of zij dat zeker niet doen, dus 0% winst voor de Catawiki catalogus, Catawiki zelf en de postzegel- en muntenveiling.

Om niet alle postzegels uit een partij te koppelen kan ik wel inkomen maar om iets aan te bieden in de veiling zonder het in de catalogus op te nemen vind ik een belachelijk commercieel standpunt en een belediging voor alle vrijwilligers die samen door er veel vrije tijd in te steken de catalogus bouwen

Dit kan je echt niet maken

It is certainly not at the expense of, because if we were to force someone to, for example, link 300 stamps and then also create another 200 because they are not yet in the Catawiki catalogue, he or she will certainly not do that. so 0% profit for the Catawiki catalogue, Catawiki itself and the stamp and coin auction.

I can agree not to link all stamps from a batch, but to offer something in the auction without including it in the catalog I think is a ridiculous commercial position and an insult to all volunteers who spend a lot of free time together. to cross the build catalog

You really can't do this

Also worrying that a salesperson signals this and thinks further than tomorrow

@ arco just send a text message maybe he or marco will read it

I throw like a link on the bonte forum

see how my colleagues are doing

ea has to do with each other after all

ik gooi zo ff een linkje op het forum van bonte

Ik kan je niets verbieden, maar wat mij betreft houden we het hier intern, hoor, en is dit de plek waar het zich afspeelt. Laten we er nou geen heksenjacht van maken.

Als mensen van andere sites er met de haren moeten worden bijgesleept, staan ze niet middenin het Catawiki-leven, anders hadden ze zich hier al lang geroerd.

I'll throw a link on the forum of fur

I can't forbid you anything, but as far as I'm concerned we'll keep it internal here, you know, and this is where it takes place. Let's not turn this into a witch hunt.

If people from other sites have to be dragged in, they are not in the middle of Catawiki life, otherwise they would have stirred here long ago.

You really can't make this

100% agree.

now another fifteen minutes until the auction. ..

@Arco

I don't think you are playing too hard

It is just a mockery when it is decided that items may be offered at the auction without them in the catalog need to be entered because it is too much work ???

And that is being told to volunteers who have spent hundreds or more hours to fill and improve the catalog

Meanwhile another fifteen minutes until the auction ...

At 10.23 I already received an email from auctioneer Jos, so he still had more than an hour and a half. (;-)
After that I had 2 more phone calls from Catawiki, so our discussion is stirring and is not being ignored.

Did say I expect a response on the forum.
We're going to Mars these days, so hitting a delete button a few times seems like child's play compared to that.

That's nice that they are not sleeping, but as long as the auction items are not canceled, add some oil or better kerosene burn better

Als de veilingmeester blijft weigeren het juiste te doen, dan moeten de mensen die nu bij catawiki zitten maar ingrijpen.

Daar wil ik dan wel verantwoording voor nemen als Marco en René terug zijn.

Eerst de regels aanpassen, en dan pas toestaan dat dingen zonder koppeling worden aangeboden.

If the auctioneer continues to refuse to do the right thing, then the people who are now at catawiki should step in.

I want to take responsibility for that when Marco and René are back.

First adjust the rules, and only then allow things to be offered without a link.

It is nice to see that you as administrators take it up like this for the Catawiki catalog

It is a pity that we have such a difference of opinion on this.

We have all (paid or not) the best for Catawiki.

I will therefore take full responsibility for the upcoming stamp and coin auctions until René and Marco return from vacation and we deal with this problem internally. can solve it

Nee Jos, je kunt geen verantwoording nemen die je niet hebt.

De verantwoording dat regels in acht genomen worden ligt bij ons, en daar heb jij je aan te houden, net als iedereen.

De boot is nu toch echt wel aan bij mij hoor, ik wordt vrijwel nooit boos, maar jij hebt het nu voor elkaar.

Je houding is een schandalige schoffering naar alle beheerders en invoerders toe.
Uit het feit dat je het hier over verschillen van mening hebt, blijkt wel dat je niet begrijpt waarom we hier bezwaar tegen maken.

Het gaat hier om regels, niet om meningen.
Over regels kun je van mening verschillen.
Je kunt ze echter niet negeren omdat je het met bepaalde regels niet eens bent.
Jij vertegenwoordigd Catawiki.
Als jij de regels al negeert omdat ze je niet uitkomen, hoe moeten wij invoerders dan nog vragen zich aan de regels te houden ?

Met jou instelling valt de bodem weg uit de Catalogus.

No Jos, you can't take responsibility that you don't have.

The responsibility that rules are observed lies with us, and you have to adhere to that, just like everyone else.

The boat is really on with me now, I hardly ever get angry, but you've done it now.

Your attitude is an outrageous insult to all administrators and importers.
The fact that you mention differences of opinion here shows that you don't understand why we object to this.

These are rules, not opinions.
You can disagree about rules.
However, you cannot ignore them because you disagree with certain rules.
You represent Catawiki.
If you already ignore the rules because they are not convenient for you, how are we supposed to ask importers to comply with the rules?

With your attitude, the bottom drops out of the Catalog.

enigste wat wij kunnen doen is fake account aanmaken

en de boel belachelijk hoog opjagen

@ veilingsmeesterJ

dat zal best dat jij je verandwoordelijkheid neemt

maar het klopt niet

als de kat van huis is .....

ooit zij een collega van mij toe ik nog in loondienst was een carriere begint flitsent

en eindigt met gedonder!!

enfin mijn standpunt hier in is meer dan duidelijk dus verdere toelichting niet nodig  hoop ik

the only thing we can do is create a fake account

and drive things ridiculously high

@auctioneerJ

it's best that you take your responsibility

but it's not right

when the cat is away.....

Once a colleague of mine, when I was still employed, started a career in a flash

and ends with thunder!!

Anyway, my position on this is more than clear, so I hope no further explanation is necessary

@ Arwin

Hear hear

I will not add any item to the catalog as long as such a ridiculous position is taken

The boat is really on with me now, I hardly ever get angry, but now you have it done.

Your attitude is an outrageous offense towards all administrators and importers.
The fact that you are talking about differences of opinion shows that you do not understand why we are objecting to this.

Yes, it is getting a bit personal now, Jos. This is really not possible. From now on it is clearly unwillingness on your part and there is no excuse for your behavior here.

It is not a problem that you made a wrong decision last week, but now that you are persistent after this discussion is just pathetic. You make yourself impossible in this way here. Shall I google for you if there are any vacancies at other auction sites? As you have noticed, we are never afraid to help others.

All we can do is create a fake account

and freaking things out

We don't have to create a fake account for that, you know, gardener. Or did you really think that Catawiki is going to keep us paying several millions, where it is clearly a 0 key that has stuck ... (;-)

Gebruiker Sinbad neemt wel zijn petje af voor deze beheerders hoor (meen ik serieus).

Jullie tonen echt wel ballen in deze principe kwestie, niets dan respect ik deze van Sinbad.

Catawiki kan trots zijn op zijn vrijwillige beheerders, jullie verdedigen het kindje met hand en tand, Keep up the good work (en jullie principes)

Sinbad

User Sinbad does take his hat off to these admins though (I'm serious).

You really show balls in this matter of principle, nothing but I respect this one from Sinbad.

Catawiki can be proud of its voluntary managers, you defend the child tooth and nail, keep up the good work (and your principles)

Sinbad

We know that everyone has a warm heart for Catawiki. That is why we would like to have a purely substantive discussion.

We would also like to ask everyone to temporarily put this topic aside. We will consider next steps.

We will respond after the weekend.

Kind regards.

"After the weekend" is too late and too vague

Now the keyword is as the auction is running NOW

We would also like to ask everyone to put this topic aside for a while. We will consider next steps.

We will respond after the weekend.

That really makes no sense, Kozy.
The only correct decision could have been made long ago, and that is to (still) remove the wrong lots, and an apology email to the bidders that may already be there and have no part in it. You really don't need a weekend for that, but a finger and perhaps a mouse.

Why you are in such a dilemma is a complete mystery to me. The (misplaced) decisiveness of auctioneer Jos is apparently lacking among the other Catawiki staff?

stick with it ????

seems like political

@Kozy

If the 'hardcore' voluntary administrators revolt so openly, is it wise to lock everything '' for a weekend ''?

Me read a very serious frustration in that respect it looks very CODE RED .

I'm just a simple user but I would really try the spirit back into the bottle ASAP (it's just a tip from Sinbad)

I really hope that decisiveness is now shown by Catawiki, it has already gone wrong at the book auction. There, too, the rules have already been dealt with in a terrible way. And now again. This is not possible, it is much better to withdraw everything NOW with a kiss to the possible bidders and then see if the rules need to be changed and then continue. This is very bad for Catawiki. Point.

The strange thing is that everyone is concerned about this, but if you look in the sales regulations to see what providers of Catawiki receive, it really states that large batches of coins / stamps do NOT need to be linked to the catalog. items.

In that respect, Jos fully adheres to the auction conditions as communicated to providers.

again the question: where is that? Just put a link. I can't find it ...