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October 21, 2010 16:19

Our idea was mainly not to make it too complex. That is why we have not chosen such a star system with feedback on parts.

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October 21, 2010 16:28

Another nice thing: I already receive feedback before I have even sent anything ...... All my Weekly Donald Duck advertisements say: "Ask the state", because I have a number of volumes at once. entered.

The potential buyer ORDER first, then inquires about the state, complains and then gives feedback, without having anything to offer: the stuff had to be posted today (has already happened by the way). How reliable are we now with this system?

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October 21, 2010 16:38

Another nice thing: I already receive feedback before I have even sent anything ...... All my Weekly Donald Duck advertisements say: "Ask the state", because I have a number of volumes at once. entered.

The potential buyer ORDER first, then inquires about the state, complains and then gives feedback, without having anything to offer: the stuff had to be posted today (has already happened by the way). How reliable are we now with this system?

Due to a mistake, there was sometimes still an opportunity to give feedback immediately after ordering. That is not really possible anymore.

A buyer can only give feedback from a week after ordering unless the seller changes the status earlier to, for example, Shipped or Collected. So the situation you describe should not be able to occur again.

Incidentally, this feedback provider has not given any negative feedback, I see. You could ask him if he changes the feedback from neutral to positive if he is satisfied after receiving the shipment.

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October 21, 2010 17:32

Bobbedoes has already received feedback 100 times and all positive! A great achievement, congratulations!

None other than Bobbedoes can be "Shop of the day" on our homepage today!

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October 21, 2010 18:32

I assume you are also building such a feedback system for the importers of new items? (;-)

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October 21, 2010 19:24

Arco's request will be placed low (if at all) on the priority list, but I fully understand the reason behind it.
Especially the (bulk) input with very brief / incorrect data and blurry photos causes a lot of inconvenience and work for the reviewers and collectors.

Entry takes a lot of time, yes everyone knows that. However, if for that reason minimal / poor entry is made, the work shifts (+ doubling of this) to other users.

We should all try to make this laborious work as efficient as possible and that includes some thinking and precision work.

I myself regularly import items, unfortunately not always flawlessly (luckily it keeps getting better) and then I praise Catawiki for having very good and sharp-eyed reviewers. They can get a (small) statue from me.

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October 21, 2010 20:09

I join Arco

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October 21, 2010 20:42

I assume you are also building such a feedback system for the importers of new items? (;-)

Good idea! I assume that feedback will only be given by administrators. And can these new users also give the administrators feedback the other way around? :-)

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October 21, 2010 20:53

Look, that is useful to Rene;)

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October 21, 2010 21:12

@ René, no, that makes little sense, I think.
We are 'pain in the butt' for users who input badly, so ... (;-)

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October 21, 2010 21:17

Define a bad entry.

Not everyone is an 'expert' that's why you bump into it;)

* is already hiding *

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October 21, 2010 21:17

@ René, why not, but don't turn it into a competition, then no administrators will remain

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Good idea! Only give feedback by administrators, I assume.

Still optional then I hope ...

Personally, I don't feel like giving out compliments or reprimands to adult importers as a kind of schoolteacher.

Does negative feedback become visible to everyone?
Are we now going to work with public pillars for importers on Catawiki?

If I have problems with certain input, I will arrange it behind the scenes with the importer It doesn't have to be visible to others at all.

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October 22, 2010 08:21

Hi Arwin,

The question and response were with a smiley face / wink. Indeed, we should not have public pillars. Apart from that, it is a serious point that there are importers who provide the administrators with a lot of work time after time. Arco makes a fair point that we have to think carefully about how we can reduce that burden.

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Yes, okay, but you wrote "good idea" with an exclamation mark.
That is why I still respond.

I also know that there are importers who always bring you a lot of work.
As you know, I often come across that as an administrator.

It is of course true that as an administrator we already have a lot of power.
We always have the last word, because we can just delete the entry if we don't like it.
In general, someone quickly draws the conclusion that bad entry is pointless.

We can always refuse someone who doesn't want to listen to Catawiki, you've promised me once.

That should be enough in itself, I think.

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October 22, 2010 08:58

That is of course also the case. We can indeed block people who mess up as a last resort.

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October 22, 2010 09:49

I also have experience with importing, uhm, I have always been very well helped with and with my errors and related matters, thanks again to Arco in particular!

Also think that no one wants to make a conscious mess of it, think I speak for many; we are all enthusiasts, collectors or whatever.

I am glad that there are some collectors who import very well, so you can often discover what you are still missing in your collection and you can enjoy hooking up.

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October 22, 2010 10:24

Thanks, Swagman.

Indeed, it is usually not collectors and enthusiasts who make a mess of it, but mostly private individuals who want to quickly put their item up for sale. I have very little trouble with them quickly rejecting things and I prefer not to argue. They only have one interest and that is money, so I will always lose that discussion.

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October 22, 2010 23:56

As a buyer, you can provide feedback if the seller changes the status of your order (for example, to Shipped) or if the seller has not responded to your order after a week . In both cases, as a buyer you will receive an email asking for feedback.

Sorry, but that doesn't really make any sense. Because unless you have cracked my email account you will not be able to see if I have contacted a buyer!

As stated elsewhere on this forum, I think (and I am not the only one) that the buyer receives far too many automatic and irrelevant e-mails from the system. Perhaps useful for the big boys, but not for the small catawiki grocer on the corner who relies on personal contact and service. I am such a small dealer and therefore I do not do anything with the status of an order (and therefore not put it into processing) until I have visited the post office. Then I change it to sent (so that you know that you can count it for the commission ;-)).

You give feedback when a transaction has been completed (whether or not successfully), not halfway through the journey. I understand that you are looking for a means by which a buyer can pillory unresponsive sellers, but this method does not work.

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October 23, 2010 09:26

As a buyer, you can provide feedback if the seller changes the status of your order (for example, to Shipped) or if the seller has not responded to your order after a week . In both cases, as a buyer you will receive an email asking for feedback.

Sorry, but that doesn't really make any sense. Because unless you have cracked my email account you will not be able to see if I have contacted a buyer!

As stated elsewhere on this forum, I think (and I am not the only one) that the buyer receives far too many automatic and irrelevant e-mails from the system. Perhaps useful for the big boys, but not for the small catawiki grocer on the corner who relies on personal contact and service. I am such a small dealer and therefore I do not do anything with the status of an order (and therefore not put it into processing) until I have visited the post office. Then I change it to sent (so that you know that you can count it for the commission ;-)).

You give feedback when a transaction has been completed (whether or not successfully), not halfway through the journey. I understand that you are looking for a means by which a buyer can pillory unresponsive sellers, but this method does not work.

Of course, we do not actually check whether a seller contacts or not, but think it is reasonable that a buyer can give feedback to the seller a week after his order, regardless of whether he changes the status of the order. There are simply sellers who do nothing with the order status. In that case, such a seller could otherwise provide a very bad service without the buyer having the opportunity to provide feedback

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October 23, 2010 10:21

Usually it takes longer than a week (email, wait for the deposit, post it, and then the package must first arrive) before a transaction is completed. I only change status when the package has been sent.
But how can you as a buyer give feedback as long as the transaction has not been completed? And yet every week a buyer is asked to give feedback if the status has not yet changed?
You should think about this again.

In addition:

In that case, such a seller could otherwise provide a very bad service without the buyer having the opportunity to provide feedback.

This means that you do not follow up on whether an order has also been processed: but if a seller does not respond to an order, and the status does not change, do you still charge commission? Which seller wants to pay commission for something that has not been sold?

If a transaction has ended (badly), you as a buyer can still give (negative) feedback, even without the seller having changed the status! But then not somewhere in the middle.

So these are totally unnecessary emails.

What pegag says is correct: you give feedback when a transaction is completed, the name feed-back reflects this perfectly.



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October 23, 2010 11:23

@ Pitske,

We could also easily make it 2 weeks. It's more about the principle that people cannot give feedback immediately after ordering.

Incidentally, we will not send an email with the request to provide feedback. We only do this if the status has been changed by the seller to Sent or Picked up, etc.

If every seller were to keep track of the status of the order, then that period of 1 week (or possibly 2 weeks) would indeed not be necessary, but unfortunately not all sellers do that yet.

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October 23, 2010 12:42

2 weeks would be more realistic.

As for the emails, is the article below wrong? It clearly states that as a buyer you will receive an email if the seller has not responded after a week (which you cannot follow up)?

As a buyer, you can provide feedback if the seller changes the status of your order (for example, to Shipped) or if the seller has not responded to your order after a week . In both cases, as a buyer you will receive an email asking for feedback.

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@pitske, that's right, that's wrong there. Well spotted! We do not send an email after a week. From that moment on you can give feedback in your order overview, but we will not specifically point this out.
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S.v.p. convert my feedbacks so far to Positive.

Something went wrong here !!

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