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I am already at 66.7% and I am not happy with that at all!

because something was not available due to sales through shops and fairs, I will be assessed on this /

this system does not work and I demand that you cannot be judged on a canceled or not yet delivered order!

I sell quality and the most beautiful and most expensive books to top collectors in NL and Belgium.

I'm not going to sell books for around 3 and 5 euros because they were out of stock.

I ask if I can manage a shop without feedback.

Stripsmagazijn is a Comic Strip specialist

I don't want to be judged by people who miss out on a 5 euro booklet!

So please do something about it immediately, I even had my site www.stripsmagazijn.nl directly linked to you.

this immediately resulted in orders from regular customers of stripsmagazijn.nl.

STOP FEEDBACK NOW!

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October 21, 2010 08:12

of the 10 feedbacks given, 3 were negative and 1 neutral.

neutral: ordered October 16, no message sent and no payment and it says not yet received!

Negative :: not available 2x adjusted to neutral

Negative condition left something to be desired from a new booklet of 5.75 why is it not good?

Mr. Hefti turned out to have given everyone negative, so also adjusted to neutral.

rather delete it!

we even give the option to return something.

changed!

feedback score again 100%

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October 21, 2010 08:38

If you order 10 items at the same time (as 1 order) you can give 1 feedback. If you order all ten items separately (as 10 orders) you can give 10 feedbacks, which also count 10 times in the score. Do I understand that so well?

That is indeed correct. Would you like it differently?

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October 21, 2010 08:41

@ stripsmagazijn, I'll contact you. As mentioned, it is indeed not the intention that negative feedback is given because something is not available once.

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October 21, 2010 09:01

Hi rene

Can you also delete incorrectly given feedback?

In this way, for example, the feedback percentage of strip magazine can go back to a higher percentage

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October 21, 2010 09:09

Positive change implemented quickly!

but it is still not waterproof.

so now it appears that others want to try to screw things up.

Thanks again Rene

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Personally, I also think that buyers who give false negative feedback should be given a cross after their name.
Whoever says something is often just as important as what someone says.

It is now very noncommittal from the buyers' point of view to say something negative.

I do not have a shop myself, but if the feedback is polluted by whoppers, which wrongly give negative feedback, then I as a customer just suffer from it.
Then the system is no longer reliable.
Ultimately, you also disadvantage buyers, precisely by wanting to protect them too much.

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October 21, 2010 09:19

It turned out that someone gave almost only negative feedback to sellers, including Stripsmagazijn, with the same brief explanation over and over. Several sellers indicated that the buyer in question had never communicated his dissatisfaction. He also gave negative feedback if something could not be delivered. For these reasons, we have changed his negative feedback at once into neutral feedback pending his response.

Incidentally, it will soon be added that you can click through on a feedback provider in the feedback overview of a seller and see all feedback given by that person. Then you can put the feedback in perspective.

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October 21, 2010 09:22

it now says in my feedback list:

neutral:

condition left something to be desired.

very happy to delete! including user

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Will the sellers now determine how the feed-back system should go ???

Do you think that a seller can respond to negative / neutral feedback? If sellers decide to "remove", then the whole feedback system has no function anymore.

If a (pro) seller receives neutral feedback from another (pro) seller, will there be a motivation behind it?

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Hahaha, wonderful discussion !!! Great system. Catawiki allows itself to be manipulated by sellers (who pay after all), negative feedbacks are changed to neutral by Catawiki, it is now possible to give feedback on sales transactions from 7 months ago, only one-sided feedback is possible, sellers are not allowed to give feedback.

Wayy to goooooo catawiki !!!!!

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October 21, 2010 10:29

As mentioned, there are rules for giving feedback. We think it is important that any complaint is first submitted to the seller so that he has the opportunity to find a solution. In addition, we apply the rule that if a seller is unable to deliver because, for example, an item has just been sold through another channel, that is not a reason to give negative feedback.

The aforementioned person did not abide by both rules, we got back from a fair number of sellers. In addition, he had filled in the same explanation everywhere. This is reason for us to adjust his feedback in one go to neutral feedback in anticipation of more clarity from this feedback provider about his motives.

@Swagman, the feedback provider was not a pro seller by the way.

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October 21, 2010 10:39

AELIX is a pro seller after all; which gives neutral feedback.

In my opinion, neutral feedback is not wrong; you will then know more about the seller and may or may not take that into account.

Keep applauding the feedback system.

'Auctor abit operis, sed tamen exstat opus'

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October 21, 2010 10:42

Aelix is a pro salesperson. But I was talking about a completely different user who in the meantime also indicates that they have given feedback too quickly and oversimplified. Neutral feedback is certainly not wrong. We had therefore only adjusted his negative feedback to neutral feedback from the conscious user, pending more explanation, which has been given in the meantime.

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October 21, 2010 11:01

Why can you only respond to negative feedback and not to neutral ones? There, an explanation may also be desirable.

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October 21, 2010 11:07

Why can you only respond to negative feedback and not to neutral ones? There, an explanation may also be desirable.

That is a good point and we have already received it many times as feedback on our feedback system :-)

We will soon make it possible!

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That is indeed correct. Would you like it differently?

It seems to me that this makes the feedback score easy to manipulate (both positive and negative). If I am correct, feedbacks from the same user on eBay will only be counted once within 1 week. (And in the past, only the very first positive or negative feedback from each individual user counted towards the score.)

As it turns out, professional salespeople attach great importance to a perfect feedback reputation. This is understandable, because every complaint from a dissatisfied customer has ten times as much impact as a green thumb from a satisfied customer. On eBay you can also see that a score below 98% is considered bad. (Which, incidentally, rarely affects bids, as most buyers don't care about feedback.)

I am afraid that you have taken on a lot of work, because regulating feedback complaints is and remains very labor-intensive. I trust you, but you can spend your time better, I think.

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October 21, 2010 14:00

Why can you only respond to negative feedback and not to neutral ones? There, an explanation may also be desirable.

This is now possible!

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That is indeed correct. Would you like it differently?

It seems to me that this makes the feedback score easy to manipulate (both positive and negative). If I am correct, feedbacks from the same user on eBay will only be counted once within 1 week. (And in the past, only the very first positive or negative feedback from each individual user counted towards the score.)

As it turns out, professional salespeople attach great importance to a perfect feedback reputation. This is understandable, because every complaint from a dissatisfied customer has ten times as much impact as a green thumb from a satisfied customer. On eBay you can also see that a score below 98% is considered bad. (Which, incidentally, rarely affects bids, as most buyers don't care about feedback.)

I am afraid that you have taken on a lot of work, because regulating feedback complaints is and remains very labor-intensive. I trust you, but you can spend your time better, I think.

You have a point there. Indeed, it seems realistic to set a maximum number of user feedbacks to a particular salesperson per period. Let's get started.

By the way: it is certainly not our intention to deal with the feedback given in terms of content. We can only take action in exceptional cases, in case of reports by multiple sellers of a strange behavioral feedback provider who does not comply with the rules. The fact that this happened once now is because yesterday we asked everyone who ordered something this year to give their feedback. As a result, a lot of feedback was immediately given. In a normal situation I do not expect this to happen often and I am therefore not afraid of a lot of work on this point. There really has to be something special going on before we get started.

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Why can you only respond to negative feedback and not to neutral ones? There, an explanation may also be desirable.

This is now possible!

Thanks

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a response to a positive one is also nice

something of thanks until next time make it up

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October 21, 2010 14:36

a response to a positive one is also nice

something of thanks until next time make it up

I don't think it is that interesting for other users. But of course you can always send such a message to the positive feedback provider.

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I can come up with positive feedback that could be of interest to other users such as: 'quality better than expected', 'fast shipping', 'well packaged', 'good service'. A standard buy-sell already deserves a thumbs up (the famous sixs culture), positive feedback can stimulate more service or reward the shops that already offer more service.

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October 21, 2010 16:07

I can come up with positive feedback that could be of interest to other users such as: 'quality better than expected', 'fast shipping', 'well packaged', 'good service'. A standard buy-sell already deserves a thumbs up (the famous sixs culture), positive feedback can stimulate more service or reward the shops that already offer more service.

It is absolutely very important that the buyer can provide an explanation when giving positive feedback.

My comment related to Puurveen's request to be able to respond to it as a seller.

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October 21, 2010 16:14

it might be an idea to include the star system

on ebay you could give max 5 stars

then it was about quality packaging speed communication

etc etc

this way you can see at a glance how the seller is doing

if a seller receives a lot of feedback you can certainly see some sort of trend

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