wat betekend dit juist in verband met kwaliteit van de munt?alvast bedankt
what exactly does this mean in relation to the quality of the coin? Thanks in advance
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- 12 januari 2012 13:31
FDC = Fleur De Coin = Stempelglans
UNC = Uncirculated = Nieuw, nooit in omlooop geweest/gebruikt
FDC = Fleur De Coin = Stamp Gloss
UNC = Uncirculated = New, never circulated / used
Bij UNC kunnen enkele minieme krasjes op de munt aanwezig zijn, veroorzaakt door het vallen van de munt (na het slaan) vanuit de muntpers in de opvangbak. De munt vertoont echter geen enkele slijtage als gevolg van gebruik in betalingsverkeer. Dus ook de hoogste punten van het ontwerp zijn niet gesleten en alle details zijn zelfs met een loep goed zichtbaar en scherp gedefinieerd.
Bij FDC zit er zelfs geen enkele kras op de munt, zelfs niet bij vergroting onder een 8x vergrotende loep (let op: bij 20x vergroting kunnen wel haarlijntjes te zien zijn als gevolg van het slagproces zelf, deze zijn echter niet zichtbaar met een 8x vergrotende loep). In zeer zeldzame gevallen blijven munten na de val in de opvangbak en het inpakken in rollen FDC, maar in verreweg de meeste gevallen zullen ze niet beter zijn dan Unc. Dit rechtvaardigt daarom ook een hogere waardetoekenning (lees: prijs) voor FDC-munten ten opzichte van UNC.
In het Amerikaanse systeem wordt UNC vertaald met MS60 (mintstate) en FDC met MS64. De Amerikaanse schaal (de schaal van Shelby) gaat zelfs nog verder (tot MS70, een perfecte munt, zelfs onder een microscoop die tot 100 keer vergroot).
With UNC, some minor scratches may be present on the coin, caused by the coin falling (after striking) from the coin press into the collection tray. However, the coin does not show any wear and tear as a result of use in payment transactions. So even the highest points of the design are not worn and all details are clearly visible and sharply defined even with a magnifying glass.
With FDC there is not even a single scratch on the coin, not even when magnified under an 8x magnifying glass (note: at 20x magnification, hairlines may be seen as a result of the striking process itself, but these are not visible with an 8x magnifying magnifying glass). In very rare cases, coins will remain in the catcher after being dropped and wrapped in rolls of FDC, but in the vast majority of cases they will not be better than Unc. This therefore also justifies a higher value allocation (read: price) for FDC coins compared to UNC.
In the American system, UNC is translated with MS60 (mintstate) and FDC with MS64. The American scale (Shelby's scale) goes even further (up to MS70, a perfect coin even under a microscope that magnifies up to 100 times).
Heb even wat geleend van het internet over dit onderwerp. Het blijft een interessant onderwerp; FDC en UNC munten. Eén ding is zeker: Zowel een UNC als een FDC munt vertonen absoluut geen spoor van gebruiksslijtage.
Neem je nu de definitie van een FDC-munt volgens de muntalmanak, dan lees ik daarin niet dat voor het bepalen of een munt FDC-kwaliteit heeft een loep noodzakelijk is. De UNC-munt heeft dezelfde kwaliteiten (muntglans/geen gebreken) als de FDC-munt met als enige verschil dat enkele putjes/hakjes en/of bagmarks aanwezig mogen zijn.
Dit nu vergeleken met de Sheldon-scale, levert de volgende conclusie: FDC is minimaal MS-68. (Geen zichtbare contact-marks met het blote oog) en UNC zou ongeveer MS-63 tot MS-65 zijn.
Mint State (Unc) - Absolutely no trace of wear.
Mint state coins vary from MS-60 to MS-70. As I stated earlier, MS-70 is perfect. No blemishes, good strike, great color, and a lot of other really nit picky stuff. Trust me, any coin you have that isn't slabbed isn't MS-70. It's like winning the lottery, twice. An average shiny new penny from the supermarket is MS-63. A really pretty one with no easily visible marks is MS-65. If you have an average roll of new cents from the supermarket, 2-5 will be MS-60, 5-15 will be MS-61, 25-40 will be MS-63, 5-8 will be MS-64 and 1-2 will be MS-65. If you are exceptionally lucky, one will be MS-66. An MS-68 coin is one in 100,000! MS-60) Mint State Basal - Strictly uncirculated but that's all; ugly coin with no luster, obvious contact marks, etc.
(MS-63) Mint State Acceptable - Uncirculated, but with contact marks and nicks, slightly impaired luster, overall basically appealing appearance. Strike is average to weak.
(MS-65) Mint State Choice - Uncirculated with strong luster, very few contact marks, excellent eye appeal. Strike is above average.
(MS-68) Mint State Premium Quality - Uncirculated with perfect luster, no visible contact marks to the naked eye, exceptional eye appeal. Strike is sharp and attractive.
(MS-69) Mint State All-But-Perfect - Uncirculated with perfect luster, sharp, attractive strike, and very exceptional eye appeal. A perfect coin except for microscopic flaws (under 8x magnification) in planchet, strike, or contact marks.
(MS-70) Mint State Perfect - The perfect coin. There are no microscopic flaws visible to 8x, the strike is sharp, perfectly-centered, and on a flawless planchet. Bright, full, original luster and outstanding eye appeal.
MS-60) Mint State Basal - Strictly uncirculated but that's all; ugly coin with no luster, obvious contact marks, etc.
(MS-63) Mint State Acceptable - Uncirculated, but with contact marks and nicks, slightly impaired luster, overall basically appealing appearance. Strike is average to weak.
(MS-65) Mint State Choice - Uncirculated with strong luster, very few contact marks, excellent eye appeal. Strike is above average.
(MS-68) Mint State Premium Quality - Uncirculated with perfect luster, no visible contact marks to the naked eye, exceptional eye appeal. Strike is sharp and attractive.
(MS-69) Mint State All-But-Perfect - Uncirculated with perfect luster, sharp, attractive strike, and very exceptional eye appeal. A perfect coin except for microscopic flaws (under 8x magnification) in planchet, strike, or contact marks.
(MS-70) Mint State Perfect - The perfect coin. There are no microscopic flaws visible to 8x, the strike is sharp, perfectly-centered, and on a flawless planchet. Bright, full, original luster and outstanding eye appeal.
Borrowed something from the internet on this subject. It remains an interesting topic; FDC and UNC coins. One thing is certain: Both a UNC and an FDC coin show absolutely no signs of wear and tear.
If you now take the definition of an FDC coin according to the coin almanac, then I do not read in it that determining whether a coin has FDC quality requires a close look. The UNC coin has the same qualities (mint luster / no flaws) as the FDC coin, with the only difference that a few pits / heels and / or bagmarks may be present.
Compared to the Sheldon scale, this leads to the following conclusion: FDC is at least MS-68. (No visible contact marks to the naked eye) and UNC would be about MS-63 to MS-65.
Mint State (Unc) - Absolutely no trace of wear.
Mint state coins vary from MS-60 to MS-70. As I stated earlier, MS-70 is perfect. No blemishes, good strike, great color, and a lot of other really nit picky stuff. Trust me, any coin you have that isn't slabbed isn't MS-70. It's like winning the lottery, twice. An average shiny new penny from the supermarket is MS-63. A really pretty one with no easily visible marks is MS-65. If you have an average roll of new cents from the supermarket, 2-5 will be MS-60, 5-15 will be MS-61, 25-40 will be MS-63, 5-8 will be MS-64 and 1 -2 will be MS-65. If you are exceptionally lucky, one will be MS-66. An MS-68 coin is one in 100,000! MS-60) Mint State Basal - Strictly uncirculated but that's all; ugly coin with no luster, obvious contact marks, etc.
(MS-63) Mint State Acceptable - Uncirculated, but with contact marks and nicks, slightly impaired luster, overall basically appealing appearance. Strike is average to weak.
(MS-65) Mint State Choice - Uncirculated with strong luster, very few contact marks, excellent eye appeal. Strike is above average.
(MS-68) Mint State Premium Quality - Uncirculated with perfect luster, no visible contact marks to the naked eye, exceptional eye appeal. Strike is sharp and attractive.
(MS-69) Mint State All-But-Perfect - Uncirculated with perfect luster, sharp, attractive strike, and very exceptional eye appeal. A perfect coin except for microscopic flaws (under 8x magnification) in planchet, strike, or contact marks.
(MS-70) Mint State Perfect - The perfect coin. There are no microscopic flaws visible to 8x, the strike is sharp, perfectly-centered, and on a flawless planchet. Bright, full, original luster and outstanding eye appeal.
MS-60) Mint State Basal - Strictly uncirculated but that's all; ugly coin with no luster, obvious contact marks, etc.
(MS-63) Mint State Acceptable - Uncirculated, but with contact marks and nicks, slightly impaired luster, overall basically appealing appearance. Strike is average to weak.
(MS-65) Mint State Choice - Uncirculated with strong luster, very few contact marks, excellent eye appeal. Strike is above average.
(MS-68) Mint State Premium Quality - Uncirculated with perfect luster, no visible contact marks to the naked eye, exceptional eye appeal. Strike is sharp and attractive.
(MS-69) Mint State All-But-Perfect - Uncirculated with perfect luster, sharp, attractive strike, and very exceptional eye appeal. A perfect coin except for microscopic flaws (under 8x magnification) in planchet, strike, or contact marks.
(MS-70) Mint State Perfect - The perfect coin. There are no microscopic flaws visible to 8x, the strike is sharp, perfectly-centered, and on a flawless planchet. Bright, full, original luster and outstanding eye appeal.
ik dacht dat we in nl waren zouden we dan niet gewoon ons daar aan houden het is al moeilijk genoeg
I thought we were in nl wouldn't we just stick to it it's hard enough