LastDodo site & app/Aanpassingen nieuw commissiemodel shops

On the new commission model for shops, see my previous post about it , quite a bit of feedback has come from sellers. We have looked at this carefully.

Well, see how that works in practice.

It still doesn't seem like anything to me.

this is a small change to the old plan, the core of paying for something is sold remains a pity

These are cosmetic changes. For my comics I benefit from it, but can imagine that sellers with rare items are not happy with this. I cannot pay for places in your shop. Have a nice art collection and too much, is even in the attic. but I'm not going to offer them here.

I fear that after April 1, more than 95% of all items above 75 euros will disappear from the Catawiki shops.

A small percentage will be sold extra at the auction, but most of the expensive items will be offered on other sites I'm afraid.

And if I say 95% instead of 99, 5% then I am still very accommodating.

I hope that the people of Catawiki have not yet counted on the "possible" income. I fear it could be serious setbacks.

Bedankt voor de aanpassing, het gold abonnement is nu veel aantrekkelijker geworden door het extra saldo dat je bij krijgt !.

Het maakt het voor mij nu veel aantrekkelijker om duurdere strips te plaatsen.

Leuk idee die  statistieken-functie  ,kijk ernaar uit.

Thanks for the adjustment, the gold subscription has now become much more attractive due to the extra balance you get!.

It now makes it much more attractive for me to post more expensive comics.

Nice idea that statistics function, looking forward to it.

Mr-Wiki ... you are one of those 5%

I just checked your shop.

23262 comics for sale under 75 euro and 10 above 75 euro.

Of course you are happy LOL ...
Those 10 comics you can leave it alone if you take gold for a year.

You are EXACTLY one of those exceptions ...

But it won't make catawiki rich .. because I don't see you paying separate placement costs yet. And on those 23,252 other comics you don't pay anything anymore.

Of course this is OK for you LOL

Look, there is already 1 who has LOL and that is great ..

I also have LOL because I have already auctioned my expensive comics.

Still, let's react: we still don't think the placement costs system is a good idea. This can be solved by, for example, continuing to use the sales commission system.

But I can very much appreciate that the complaints of the customers are listened to and this with regard to the Gold Shop. We will be using the system in the short term.

Hi there the new Shops Gold has entered, say three weeks ago, I have never had a customer on Catawiki for a comic order again, it is quite clear that I am not participating in the subscription, partly because I don't even earn from customers per month. I no longer have anything to look for on Catawiki, customers can no longer find the regular shops, or do not want that, maybe too much work, are there other sites where you can do justice to your hobby? I think it's a shame but it's no different, without a subscription you have little to say anything to look for on Catawiki, if you want to sell something. like reactions thanks HomyJannes

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Kunstveiling kavel 15: Primitive cool, LP, 1987 - ontwerp Francesco Clemente

Mick Jagger, Primitive Cool, CBS LP, 1987.

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Art auction lot 15: Primitive cool, LP, 1987 - design Francesco Clemente

Mick Jagger, Primitive Cool, CBS LP, 1987.

Lp's at the art auction?

@ Rene and team:

Thank you very much, it is good to know that feedback is taken seriously.

I have decided to purchase The Gold logo, As I have already I previously indicated somewhere I have no problems with (continuing to) pay for Catawiki.

I still find the commission model with upfront placement costs an unworkable and annoying monstrosity. Time will tell if you are right by upholding this. In any case, I find this way of settling Gold dues and placement costs very creative.

Let's calculate.

Catawiki indicates that my shop has a total value of € 28,975.90. The actual value is € 10,490.70.

That's because I have a lot of Combi offers that couldn't be placed in my shop at once. (don't know if that has changed since then). So I had to put these in the shop in parts with the same price. If I didn't do that with the same price, customers would buy them per piece, for that lower price per piece, while the intention was to sell them all at once. Tarzan 118 pieces for € 1,607.00 in total. These have been placed in the shop 7 times for € 1607.00 because of the above problem.

7 times € 1,607.00 = € 11,249.00 while that had to be 1 times € 1,607.00, then it is too much, 6 times with a total amount of € 11,089.00 true about 8.47% I now have to pay an amount of € 939.24 after April 1, and before April 1 5.75% € 637.62 only for these 118 pieces of Tazan with a price of € 1,607.00.

In total Catawiki asks now whether I want to transfer € 1,645.07 before April 1 to remain in the shop with € 75+ items. That should actually have been € 569.59. Whatever I wouldn't have paid.

Now I must have done something wrong or I don't understand !! ??

I have just checked.

Regarding the comics, there are 166 pages of 30 items (4980 items) above 75 euros.

(Check here: http://www.catawiki.be/marktplatz/areas/147-strips?locale=nl&order=desc&page=1&sort=selling_price)

Wondering how many strips above 75 euros will still be available after April 1 ..

We will know soon.

I think every gold will keep shop owner for 4000 euros worth of comics over 75 euros in his shop (which is included in his annual abbo) ... and then a few exceptions ... and thats about it.

We'll see who is right :)

Ooo and then something else ...

I have already seen MANY ones who have already removed all items above 75 euro myself. They didn't have to, of course, because that will happen automatically if they don't pay before April 1.

But that is promising

I've been thinking like this. I think the new sales regulations have the sole purpose of reducing or even eliminating the expensive items in the regular shops.

Why then? ......

To increase the bids on the auctions because less price comparison is possible with a reduced supply of expensive items in shops.

If a shop has a item for sale for € 300 will never yield the same item, with equivalent quality / properties, at the auction more than that amount.

I always determine my maximum bids on the auctions based on the prices of items in shops minus the 9% auction fee. There is (soon enough) always a price stunter in between who wants to sell at all costs. And those price stunters still put a ceiling on the prices at the auctions.

In my opinion, the disappearance of expensive items in shops will only lead to higher prices at the auctions. Too bad for the buyer ..... LOL for the seller and LOL for Catawaki's income ...

Correct me if I am wrong ....

Damn .... 2x the enter button clicked so post was posted 2x.

@revandorst,

You can of course think what you want, but it happens very often that higher amounts are realized at auctions than in shops. Also because there are usually much better images and descriptions for an auction lot.

I have already stated a few times what the rationale is but will copy another text from above:

where we have maintained our starting point that we were looking for a simpler model that no longer leads to all kinds of questions and discussions as was often the case with the removal of a commission afterwards. That was just going to cost too much manpower. Quite apart from the increasing number of sellers who afterwards tried to avoid the commission by pretending that an order had not gone through.

@Rene, bedankt voor je reactie.

Bij het doorlezen van de posts op dit forum viel mij op dat velen hun items van € 75 of meer uit hun shops (gaan) verwijderen. Hierdoor wordt de concurrentierol van de shops ten opzichte van de veiling beduidend minder.

Het zal steeds moeilijker worden om voor jezelf een maximumprijs voor een veilingobject te bepalen, gewoonweg omdat het aanbod in de shops zal verminderen.

Natuurlijk komt het op de veilingen  voor dat soms hogere prijzen worden gehaald, maar ik had het in mijn post over items van gelijkwaardige kwaliteit/ eigenschappen. Uiteraard zal er meer betaald worden voor een speciale druk, gesigneerde items of een bijzondere complete collectie. Waar ik het dus over had zijn de "normale" items op de veilingen die nu ook nog in de shops verkrijgbaar zijn.  

Ik geloof je op je woord wat de beweegredenen van het nieuwe reglement zijn geweest.

In meerdere posts hebben leden echter gesuggereerd dat Catawiki met de nieuwe regeling meer items op de veilingen wil krijgen. Ik geloof persoonlijk dat Catawiki dat ook wilt omdat juist daaruit het merendeel van de inkomsten uit voortkomt of zal komen. Met de nieuwe regeling zullen dure items vaker via de veiling worden aangeboden en Catawiki vraagt en ontvangt daar een prima vergoeding voor van de koper én de verkoper. 

Een gevoel van (niet uitgesproken of onbedoeld) eigenbelang voor Catawiki van hogere veilinginkomsten blijft hierdoor bij mij, en blijkbaar ook bij anderen,  bestaan. 

Ik vind het in elk geval jammer dat het aanbod van dure items in de shops zal verminderen.  

@Rene, thanks for your response.

When reading through the posts on this forum, I noticed that many are removing their items of € 75 or more from their shops. This significantly reduces the competitive role of the shops compared to the auction.

It will become increasingly difficult to set a maximum price for an auction object for yourself, simply because the supply in the shops will decrease.

Of course it happens at the auctions that sometimes higher prices are achieved, but I was talking about items of equivalent quality / properties in my post. Of course, more will be paid for a special print, signed items or a special complete collection. So what I was talking about are the "normal" items on the auctions that are now also available in the shops.

I take your word for it what the motivations for the new regulations have been.

In several posts, however, members have suggested that Catawiki wants to get more items on the auctions with the new arrangement. I personally believe that Catawiki also wants that because it is precisely from this that the majority of the income comes or will come. With the new arrangement, expensive items will be offered through the auction more often and Catawiki asks and receives an excellent fee for this from the buyer and the seller.

A sense of (unspoken or unintentional) self-interest for Catawiki of higher auction revenues therefore persists with me, and apparently with others as well.

In any case, I think it's a shame that the range of expensive items in the shops will decrease.

beautiful result I must say that new arrangement .. the only thing you see now with the more expensive items is' not for sale ',' fair condition 'and bad condition' .. good advertisement for Catawiki ... Other I see sites bloom again with more expensive material ..

Oops my shop is only worth € 353.60 and that was € 28,975.90.

Never received an answer from the Catawiki Team to the problems and questions I raised above.

They are tired of me and I do not understand if they are doing selected answers.

And I see fewer and fewer combination offers ...... Well that certain albums are only sold together with the other xx number of volumes.

A completely legal and understandable way to sell an entire series without placement money, but more difficult to select for potential buyers. Again 2 negative effects of the new regulations ........

Is it not possible to adjust the new regulations that, for combination offers, look at the individual prices within that combination? Apparently this is the case with bulk offers.

And lately I have been looking more at Marktplaats and 2nd handbook sites .. The offer there is increasing ... and it is free .........

A completely legal and understandable way

Maybe understandable, but not legal.

@Arco

Why not legal? Is this prohibited according to the regulations? Those sellers offer individual items under $ 75 and set their own condition (that it is only sold with other parts). If this is not prohibited in the regulations then it is still legal?