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Dear collectors of the tapes,

I have an old scrapbook with some cigar tapes that my father gave me back in the day. I don't ask anything for it, I do not believe that there are expensive things and moreover they are always glued to one side and they cannot be removed from the scrapbook without damage. there are about 200, including Willem II, animals, mushrooms. Lavaux (lugano) karel I, owl, Elsabeth bass, Derk de Vries (partridge family), Pimpernel and more.

I'll hear / read it.

I have a problem.

When adding it says "manufacturer". In the search results it says "brand"

But the brand is not always the same as the manufacturer. (many different brands were acquired or released by the same manufacturer)

Now my question is "who or what should I specify when entering next to" manufacturer "?

De sigarenbandenrubriek is de afgelopen 12 maanden explosief gegroeid. Hoog tijd voor een samenvatting van de afspraken rond invoer waarover bij de huidige beheerders en de actiefste verzamelaars een concensus over bestaat:

SERIEBANDEN:

Voor seriebanden wordt er van meet af aan met unieke seriebenamingen gewerkt. Dit laat toe om een passend illustratief plaatje per serie te koppelen en een stuk(je) informatieve tekst aan de serie door middel van het veld “achtergrond informatie”. Om gelijkaardige en/of gelijknamige series van elkaar te kunnen onderscheiden wordt er onderscheidende info tussen ronde haakjes (...) geplaatst en/of één van volgende afkortingen in hoofdletters:

•KF: klein formaat

•NF: normaal formaat

•HG: half groot formaat

•GF: groot formaat

•RH: rechthoekig

•ZM: zonder merk

 

FABRIEKS- OF RECLAMEBANDEN:

Bij fabrieksbanden en reclamebanden daarentegen kan de algemene serie 'fabrieksbanden' of 'reclamebanden' gebruikt worden. Deze worden geleidelijk aan verder verfijnd aan de hand van het merk of het type band.

Volgorde tekst: Bij fabrieks- en reclamebanden worden de  gebruikte opschriften in volgende volgorde overgenomen: tekst spiegel - tekst linkervleugel - tekst rechtervleugel,  gescheiden door een koppelteken tussen 2 spaties. Als de tekst die men aantreft op de respectievelijke delen samen een zinvol woord of zinsdeel vormt, worden de koppeltekens en spaties weggelaten.

NUMMERING:

Bandjes worden enkel genummerd als er effectief een volgnummer op het bandje voorkomt. Nummers van de AVB of uit de Romkes  catalogus worden niet in dit veld opgenomen.

Ongenummerde  bandjes kunnen door de beheerders  in een logische volgorde worden geplaatst.

AFMETINGEN:

- De afmetingen worden in millimeter weergegeven. Als eerste wordt de lengte vermeld en dan de hoogte van het bandje. Bijv.: 67 x 28 mm

- De lengte van sigarenbanden van zogenaamd normaal formaat (= ± 67 mm) kan variëren wegens het gebruik op dunnere sigaren. In de catalogus wordt de maximale lengte vermeld. Kleine lengtevariaties worden niet apart in de catalogus opgenomen.

- Daarnaast werd een deel seriebanden van normaal formaat hersneden naar het zogenaamde klein formaat (lengte < 50 mm). Deze worden wél afzonderlijk in de catalogus opgenomen. Achter de serienaam wordt dan tussen haakjes hersneden vermeld. Bijv.: Mission Impossible (hersneden).

 De waarde van hersneden bandjes bedraagt doorgaans 50% van die van het oorspronkelijke normale formaat. Andermaal worden kleine lengtevariaties op de hersneden banden niet apart in de catalogus opgenomen.

 

 

PRIJZEN / WAARDES:

De prijzen  worden bepaald  naar verhouding van de zeldzaamheid.  De kleinst mogelijke waarde die op Catawiki kan ingegeven worden is 0.05 Euro. Bijv. Een bandje in goede staat aan 0.10 Euro is bij benadering 2x zo zeldzaam als een bandje met cataloguswaarde 0.05 Euro.  Echt zeldzame bandjes, veelal banden van voor 1950 kunnen een (veel) hogere waarde hebben.

De velden worden als volgt ingevuld:

Nieuwe staat:                  X  (100%)

Goede staat:                   +- 75% van X                                   

Hersneden staat:            +- 50% van goede staat

Redelijke staat:               +- 50% van goede staat

Voorbeeld:

Nieuwe staat: € 0,15

Goede staat: € 0,10                                      

Hersneden staat: € 0,05

Redelijke staat: € 0,05

TALON BESCHRIJVING:

Op heel veel bandjes bevindt zich (meestal) op het uiteinde van de linkervleugel een wit of gekleurd balkje: de zgn. ‘talon’. Hierop staat vaak info over de drukkerij die het bandje heeft vervaardigd.

Deze info kan aan de hand van de drukkersvelden in de catalogus worden opgenomen en die worden als volgt ingevuld:

Voorbeeld:

Drukkerij:        Tilburgse Steen & Offset Drukkerij

                           (indien er niets op het talon staat vullen we ‘Onbekend’ in)       

Drukkersnummer: Geen

      (dit indien er geen nummer staat, anders het nummer)

Drukker symbool :  TSO      (indien er niets op het talon staat vullen we Geen in).

Via het Catawikinummer 3060273 kunt u een aantal van de meeste gebruikte afkortingen/drukkerssymbolen vinden.

 

Eventuele andere vragen of suggesties kunt u altijd bij de beheerders terecht…

 

The cigar bands section has grown explosively over the past 12 months. It is high time for a summary of the agreements on imports on which there is a consensus among the current managers and the most active collectors:

SERIES TIRE :

For series tires, unique series names are used from the outset. This makes it possible to link a suitable illustrative image per series and a piece(s) of informative text to the series by means of the “background information” field. To distinguish similar and/or similarly named series from each other, distinguishing information is placed between round brackets (...) and/or one of the following abbreviations in capital letters:

•KF: small size

•NF: normal size

•HG: medium size

•GF: large size

•RH: rectangular

•ZM: without brand

FACTORY OR ADVERTISING TIRE :

On the other hand, for factory tires and advertising tires the general series 'factory tires' or 'advertising tires' can be used. These are gradually refined according to the brand or type of tire.

Text sequence: For factory and advertising tires the inscriptions used are taken over in the following order: text mirror - text left wing - text right wing, separated by a hyphen between 2 spaces. If the text found on the respective parts together form a meaningful word or phrase, the hyphens and spaces are omitted.

NUMBERING:

Tapes are only numbered if there is actually a serial number on the tape. Numbers from the AVB or from the Romkes catalog are not included in this field.

Unnumbered tapes can be placed in a logical order by the administrators.

MEASUREMENTS:

- The dimensions are shown in millimeters. The length is listed first and then the height of the strap. E.g.: 67 x 28 mm

- The length of cigar bands of so-called normal size (= ± 67 mm) can vary due to use on thinner cigars. The maximum length is stated in the catalogue. Minor length variations are not listed separately in the catalogue.

- In addition, part of the regular format serial tapes was recut to the so-called small format (length < 50 mm). These are included separately in the catalogue. After the series name, recut is then stated between brackets. Eg: Mission Impossible (recut).

The value of recut tapes is generally 50% of the original normal size. Again, minor length variations on the recut bands are not cataloged separately.

PRICES / VALUES:

Prices are determined according to rarity. The smallest possible value that can be entered on Catawiki is 0.05 Euro. E.g. A tape in good condition at 0.10 Euro is approximately twice as rare as a tape with a catalog value of 0.05 Euro. Really rare tires, mostly tires from before 1950 can have a (much) higher value.

The fields are filled in as follows:

New condition: X (100%)

Good condition: +- 75% of X

Recut condition: +- 50% of good condition

Fair condition: +- 50% of good condition

Example:

New condition: €0.15

Good condition: €0.10

Recut state: € 0.05

Fair condition: € 0.05

TALON DESCRIPTION:

On many bands there is (usually) a white or colored bar at the tip of the left wing: the so-called 'talon'. This often contains information about the printing company that produced the tape.

This information can be included in the catalog on the basis of the printer fields, which are entered as follows:

Example:

Printer: Tilburgse Steen & Offset Drukkerij

(if there is nothing on the talon we fill in 'Unknown')

Printer number: None

(this if there is no number, otherwise the number)

Printer symbol : TSO (if there is nothing on the talon we fill in None).

Via the Catawiki number 3060273 you can find a number of the most commonly used abbreviations/printer's symbols.

You can always contact the administrators with any other questions or suggestions…

Dear Martin,

This has also been resolved ..

Dear Martin,

Has now been resolved ..

Well seen Baron! The forum post just before yours in this topic has been deleted. Indeed, it is not the intention to provide collections on the forum.

again a free rider (sell me only about maktplaats !!) who can gladly remove it

I know them. Those whoppers were indeed put at the top of the boxes / boxes as an extra. I had them myself, if I remember correctly, from the Elisabeth Bas brand. They always put a lot of effort into their bands anyway. I don't think anyone cared about whether they had good cigars ... (;-)

The minimum value that can now be entered is 0.05 Euro. However, some very common and easy straps have a fair current market value of 0.02 or even 0.01 Euro in reasonable condition. These values cannot be entered at this time.

In the online search list, neither the title of the tape, nor the series name, nor the number in the series are displayed, just as with the export to excel. In short, the search list is currently unusable.

no not yet, it is a normal cigar band but 10 times as big, lay loose in the box on top of the cigars, greetings Rob

This is indeed not really the right place on the forum for your question, but does it have a brand or series name on it? Do you have an image?

I still have a bunch of cigar bands that came in the box so a large size where can I find them here, don't know if this is the right forum can't find anything about it yet greeting Rob

For series tires, unique series names are used from the outset. This makes it possible to link a suitable illustrative picture per series and, when developed, a piece of informative text to the series. To distinguish similar and / or eponymous series from each other, distinctive info is placed between round brackets (...) and / or one of the following abbreviations in capital letters:

• KF: small size
• NF: normal size
• HG: medium size
• GF: large size
• RH: rectangular

In contrast, with factory tires and promotional tires, the general series of 'factory tires' or 'promotional tires' can be used. These are gradually further refined according to the brand or type of tire.

Straps are only numbered if there is an effective number on the strap. Numbers from the AVB or from the Romkes catalog are not included in this field.

Text order: For factory and advertising tapes, the possible inscriptions are copied in the following order: text mirror - text left wing - text right wing separated by a hyphen between 2 spaces. If the text found on the respective parts together form a meaningful word or phrase, the hyphens and spaces are omitted.

If within certain series neither serial numbers nor years are available (for example with factory tires of a certain brand) the straps are, as far as I can see, in ascending order according to Catawiki number.

See for example http://www.catawiki.nl/catalogus / cigar bands / manufacturers / 741123-karel-i? filters [8559] = 787385

This is very confusing and makes it almost impossible to compare tapes.

Alphabetical sorting within a certain series, when no years or serial numbers are available, would be a big step forward.

When showing a user's own collection, the number in the series is not displayed. Apparently this is only for tapes that were added to the own collection from a certain date.

See link below to my own collection where the straps that have been added more recently do not show a serial number. While items previously added to the collection will show the number in the series.

http: //www.catawiki. nl / collection / Cigar bands / a / 1b46211c58ef5d4ce0c803ff4ac5cd11fe1ddd5f / g / na / s / 1/0 / SO_89 / a? user = Martinel

I suspect this is a bug that has gone unnoticed since the site's last major update.

Thank you. Soon I will be taking the photos.

@Mirjam: Cigar bands are / were kind of the 'little man' stamps. Usually they only go for a few cents each. I will send you my e-mail address shortly. If you send me some images, I can tell you if there is something more valuable than the emotional value in between.

I have an album with 494 cigar bands from my grandfather from various countries. Can someone tell me who I can have it valued and where I can best offer it for sale?

Greetings,

Mirjam.

- De afmetingen worden in millimeter weergegeven. Als eerste wordt de lengte vermeld en dan de hoogte van het bandje. Bijv.: 67 x 28 mm

- De lengte van sigarenbanden van zogenaamd normaal formaat (= +- 67 mm) kan variëren wegens het gebruik op dunnere sigaren. In de catalogus wordt de maximale lengte vermeld. Kleine lengtevariaties worden niet apart in de catalogus opgenomen.

- Daarnaast werden een deel seriebanden van normaal formaat hersneden naar het zogenaamde klein formaat (lengte < 50 mm). Deze worden wél afzonderlijk in de catalogus opgenomen. Achter de serienaam wordt dan tussen haakjes hersneden vermeld. Bijv.: Mission Impossible (hersneden) De waarde van hersneden bandjes bedraagt doorgaans 50% van die van het oorspronkelijke normale formaat. Andermaal worden kleine lengtevariaties op de hersneden banden niet apart in de catalogus opgenomen.

- The dimensions are shown in millimeters. The length is listed first and then the height of the strap. Eg: 67 x 28 mm

- The length of cigar bands of so-called normal size (= +- 67 mm) can vary due to use on thinner cigars. The maximum length is stated in the catalogue. Minor length variations are not listed separately in the catalogue.

- In addition, part of the regular format serial tapes were recut to the so-called small format (length < 50 mm). These are included separately in the catalogue. After the series name, recut is then stated between brackets. Eg: Mission Impossible (Recut) The value of recut tapes is typically 50% of the original normal size. Again, minor length variations on the recut bands are not cataloged separately.

And succeeded again :-)

Another attempt. Now from Firefox 3.6 within Appointments.