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November 07, 2012 20:52

It was just a joke of course. But it should actually be a bit fun.

By the way, now that we are here as Belgians together. What do you think of the prices of the Nero's in "new condition" at the auction. Surely think it's huge prices for albums that aren't that terribly difficult to find.

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November 07, 2012 21:06

Not really considering the prices of the Nero's. Fragile books, however, so real new condition will probably not be that simple.

The price of the entire set of Le trombone illustré was ultimately not that bad. Approximately 7 euros per delivery (delivered at home and auction costs included).

Not for you Lednewz?

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November 07, 2012 21:20

Indeed, a lot of money for the Nero's. The first 10 parts is of course another matter, but for the later issues they are hefty prices.

What I see at a favorable price are the old dupuis. One hundred euros for a beautiful Baden Powell, about the same price for Christopher Columbus. In my opinion, a damaged black hat goes way too high.

And Vandesteen remains hot. Suske en Wiske or the fam Snoek, always price, but in very nice condition of course.

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November 07, 2012 21:23

It was just a joke of course. But it should actually remain a bit fun.

Holy shit, you don't sell them, so I'll just buy the Manara series ;-)

Not really considering the prices of the Neros. Fragile booklets, so real new condition will probably not be that simple.

What do you think of the prices of the Neros in "new condition" at the auction.

I'm a fan of Nero, really, but not a collector. I am also a bit shocked by the prices, but on the other hand it is also the case that when I saw something from Nero (Sleen) for sale it was usually quite in pieces.

But then again I'm only an expert in porn comics.

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November 07, 2012 21:28

Snoek is and remains difficult, but yes, those are comics from the early 50s. Years undervalued and apparently now in need of a revival.

The hardcover albums of Dupuis, such as Christopher Columbus and the Blue Sparrowhawk and Jan Kordaat are much easier to find in good condition than the first soft covers. The soft covers are much more fragile and therefore more easily damaged. Just try to find the first 10 Lucky Lukes in near mint condition. Almost impossible and the prices that are offered do give an idea of the level of difficulty.

And indeed, Vandersteen is already what the clock is nowadays. Why? I would not know. Maybe a passing thing, but I will drop out at these prices. By the way, I already have them all. Maybe you want to sell my doubles soon? No.

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November 07, 2012 21:36

The first 8 Lucky Lukes are also on my second list (= I want to have other items first).

Why not sell doubles? I try to have as little duplicate as possible to save space in my closet and to have a budget for missing albums.

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November 07, 2012 21:53

With all due respect to its collectors, but some things I don't really understand (probably because I don't collect them).

An original album that has become rare due to its age and fragility and therefore more expensive Payment must be made: agree.

Publishing a "deluxe" edition on fewer copies than interested parties: money beating, I do not participate in that. Yet these albums fetch high prices at the auction (while they are often also offered in the shops). Very strange to me, I have no feeling with that.

Even more crazy I think that someone makes a picture of a picture in a comic book. You don't make too much of it (easy too) and add a certificate that proves that it is a real statue ?!

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147. Gaston Lagaffe - Image Aroutcheff - Ford Mustang 'Demesmaeker'- (2003)

I really can't follow that. For that price you can buy the first edition of the album from which that figurine comes out, in new condition, a few times. What makes such a statue so special?

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November 07, 2012 22:23

I did win something Envoys from Mars Is of course not new and there are quite a few flaws, but it was the only first edition of the blue series that I did not have yet.

And the Blue series is just a 'Must Have' for any serious comic collector.

And okay if he's not that 'toppie' he's okay for me. Oopsidoo

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November 07, 2012 22:37

@JozefK Publishing a "deluxe" edition on fewer copies than interested parties: money beating, I do not participate in that. Yet these albums fetch high prices at the auction (while they are often also offered in the shops). Very strange to me, I have no connection with that.

That's what 'Creative Banking' is called? I still have some repackaged mortgage for sale, interested?

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November 08, 2012 11:37

Hi Scam, congratulations on your purchase. Always thought the Envoys from Mars was the easiest title in that series.

But yes, of course I could be wrong.

It is indeed a beautiful series and not that easy. to get them complete for a pleasant budget. If you have too much money, then nothing is difficult, everything is for sale.

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November 08, 2012 13:12

Hi Nick, it certainly isn't the hardest. What amazes me a bit is the Tatar Helmet, always thought to be one of the easiest.

Most difficult are Bronze Key and The Secret of the Gladiators I thought (but of course I could be wrong). And The Spanish Ghost of course, but that's not a real 'Blue'.
And 'Good Condition' is a flexible term when I poke around;)

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November 08, 2012 13:32

I actually had to search the longest behind Beersel's treasure and the secret of the gladiators. But you may also know that I am quite a tough case when it comes to states. And so now you have the series complete. Good, of course not everyone can say.

Greetings,

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November 09, 2012 16:43

Was just looking at the history of some comics. I come across that reviewed by the Catawiki car reviewer. Is that a person or is that a program? Seems kind of robotic to me.

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November 09, 2012 17:00

That's a robot, indeed, that is / was used in some scrips.

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November 09, 2012 17:05

Thought new prices used to be approved by that autoreviewer. Was then removed (I thought).

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November 09, 2012 17:06

Ok, one more little question. So it was about a proposal for a list price, but how can an automatic program judge that list price. He can't estimate it, can he? Or am I wrong?

Nick.

ps. this was about the mirror of Kastar, a particle from the Dees Dubbel series.

ps2. therefore do not find the value in line with the market.

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November 09, 2012 17:09

Do not go into further details about list prices, because that will be an endless discussion. But that those prizes were initially judged by a robot, so I have my questions about that.

But, anyway.

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November 09, 2012 17:29

Well there have been a lot of discussions about list prices, just check the archives.

As far as I remember, that autoreviewer has been active for a while, but after fierce protests from just about everyone referred to the eternal hunting grounds.

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November 09, 2012 17:59

So get behind again.

Just heard that 80% of Catawiki's list prices are grossly exaggerated (Gnagnagna). Am I way wrong?

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November 09, 2012 18:03

I think you can leave that "from Catawiki" out of that sentence.

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November 09, 2012 18:07

Other suggestions? Or just give a comment?

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November 09, 2012 18:16

First and foremost: there are no fixed prices for second-hand items.

Only in the Netherlands there is a fixed book price for new books / comics, I am also a bit shocked about that ;-)

I have almost all the paper comic catalogs (in Dutch) and that makes me laugh when I look at the prices.

Now as far as Catawiki is concerned: a lot of work has been done for the 'current' expensive comics and they are realistic for what I have seen of them. Also pay attention to the definition of the 'Conditions'. A comic in 'Good condition' is a damn good comic.

This does not alter the fact that something can go wrong with the (in the Netherlands) lesser known series such as Dees Dubbel (and even Nero, Jommeke etc) , but a good Belgian administrator can do something about that.

wink, wink ;-)

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November 09, 2012 18:35

Only on the BE version of Catawiki the Scam ;-)

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November 09, 2012 18:40

A breakdown of the Catalog according to Dutch and Belgian values. Not a bad idea. Must be thought about. Good idea.

Nick.

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November 09, 2012 18:53

@fazerco Only on the BE version of Catawiki hey Scam ;-)

So I am currently undisturbed on .nl consuming Dutch bandwidth.

Saves something on our national budget ;-)

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