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June 18, 2013 01:23

When looking up type of book, Poetry comes after polar travel,

this is because of the ¨ ???

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June 18, 2013 01:37

Yes, very annoying. This is the case with all types on Catawiki.

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June 18, 2013 01:56

I also find the types to be chosen annoying :(

missing in my opinion: crime, police ....

But you can choose for Daodejing, Egypthologie

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June 18, 2013 03:12

Police fall under detective.
And crime without police ... well ... sounds adventure corpse / thriller ig ..

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June 18, 2013 09:53

but police and crime is at least another group,

daodejing is basically only 1 book and also falls under Eastern wisdom.

And for an average book lover I don't think Theology the ideal word to put a bible in, who will look at gods service, not think of Theolgie and dump it in others;)

Maybe it would be good to have a make an extensive list, where if one fills in the police, for example, the book is automatically placed under detective.

The books are also starting to form an important part of Catawiki.

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June 18, 2013 10:01

If an administrator provides the species Religion with the alias Religion, then the chances are smaller that people will post or search Bibles at Theology . Or maybe they should be merged, because for most people the distinction is incomprehensible and irrelevant.

Edit: I just saw that Bible is even a kind of its own.

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June 18, 2013 13:18

It seems logical to me that police falls under a detective. The English word detective is also used by the police. We call that oublollug even sleuth or detective ... and we know the sleuth novel. Right?

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June 18, 2013 14:33

My comment was actually: why the hell is daodejing in it ??

Would it make sense that you put Cherlock Holmes under dedective and Dutch police academy under police.

But for God's sake, name a few books you can put under daodejing ?????

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June 18, 2013 15:17

Do you know how something like that can arise, for example? (I know this applies to a number of types):
A new user signs up and says he is a collector of a certain type of books that has not yet been identified as a separate type in Catawiki. We enthusiastically: 'Then we'll make that kind for you!' (Because if there are many books of one kind, such a new kind is quite justified.) After entering a few books, such a new user drops out for reasons of his own. And there we are with our new type with 5 freshly imported books. ) ;-(

would find it logical that you place Cherlock Holmes under dedective and Dutch police academy under police.

But then English police just belong to Detective, and you will get a problem there ... You should not confuse private investigator with detective, which is more comprehensive internationally.
And books from a police academy can still be found under Study book. 'Police' can then be added as soon as there is a theme field.

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June 18, 2013 18:50

For me the problem remains that I still have to enter hundreds of books.

If I have a book and think it is religion and I type God in the search,

then if I have zero results, I have to start thinking about what it DOES say and suddenly I see Theology and then I fill in a book that absolutely does not belong there, because it should actually be under religion.

book is a collection of poems, I type GED but poems are not in it, search again and well, poetry is there;

These are some of the many examples that make a lot of time is wasted.

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June 18, 2013 21:38

Religion is now under religion and I will link GED to poetry.

Will also see if more pseudo names can be added to the termology used, so if you know any more?

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June 18, 2013 23:03

@Arco: Still, there's something lordernie says. I've always missed the sort of "crime novel". As a result, you cannot actually classify Simenon's novels, which fall outside the Maigret series. And a Maigret is actually a policier (police novel). And Maigret as a detective is instinctively wrong for me, although he is a kind of detective.

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June 18, 2013 23:44

Mark my words: Once Police Novel has been added, all police and / or detective series will be split between Detective and Police Novel in no time, and will be continuously edited back and forth until both types are attached to each item. The users are really waiting for that. It's that some collectors value it, but subjective fields should really be banned from an actual catalog altogether. Because it is always exactly those fields where you can never get it right. You won't hear anyone complaining about the ISBN field.

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June 19, 2013 00:19

Jiles,

will probably be allowed to add books, and if I come across any I'll let you know here;

Remember one more, youth because there is only children / youth at the k

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June 19, 2013 00:26

But youth is just found, you know. I hope you do not have the impression that from now on you will find Religion at the G in the dropdown table. Is just at the R for religion.
But Religion is now found from the search screen, just like Poems.
Unfortunately, there is no real solution to your problem. The table is always sorted by the word that comes first.

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June 19, 2013 08:09

@Arco: I like the widest possible choice myself, but if you don't think "police novel" is a good idea, then soit. But ... that doesn't say anything about "crime fiction", which is really a different genre (sometimes there can be overlaps).

Whether fields are subjective or not, doesn't really matter to me. What I do find disturbing is the fact that some types can be used for both fiction and non-fiction, for example "war" (what is meant?). Sometimes "history" is also misused for fiction. Fiction really has to go with "historical novel".

A lot of misery can be avoided if (some) users are a little more careful with filling in the form. The content does not always seem to be done with love for the items.

The fact that no one complains about the ISBN field is unfortunately not true. I sometimes have discussions with individual users about 10 or 13 about the dashed ISBN number resembling a foreign phone number, which makes Googling difficult, and so on.

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June 19, 2013 12:04

I already found out with my 12-year-old daughter that they CLEARLY distinguish between childhood and children's books

She does not want children's books and since all children's books are under children's books ...

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June 19, 2013 17:30

@lordernie: Sorry, I don't think you can use your 12-year-old daughter's opinion as an argument. Then you make it way too personal. In my opinion, the decision whether or not to split should be made on the basis of (more or less) rational considerations. I myself have not yet been able to discover a rational argument for the division of children's book / youth book.

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June 19, 2013 23:39

just wanted to add a book to my shop and see that it has been successfully entered

The book says "A true family history", but I see that Kastor also had problems entering it, so he just placed it under Dutch literature, problem solved.

But where does it belong??? Biography?? Autobiography (family writes about itself?) History??

And maybe it's even a thriller, but for that I'd have to read it first

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June 20, 2013 07:58

@lordernie: These types of books are some of the hardest to share. Is it a realistic account of events or is it a romanticized reality or does the term "a true family history" have only a literary meaning? That remains difficult, but there is a lot of information about books on the internet.

Which book is it? I can't find it that soon. Please title and author. Then I could say more about it.

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June 20, 2013 11:24

1065409

But noticed that I had a different issue and entered it under

3840455

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June 20, 2013 12:14

A very difficult book to classify. There is something to be said for many options. I do not find the choice of the type "Dutch literature" very happy. I previously use "Dutch literature" with known literati and / or with fiction with a certain depth.

Although the book is called a "debut novel" in Wikipedia, it seems to are about the author's quest for the real fate of her relatives in the 1950s and 1960s. In the book, the events are told by those involved themselves, who were (apparently) interviewed by the writer. In my opinion, the writer wanted to approach reality as closely as possible. In principle, therefore, it is not "literary fiction", but "journalistic non-fiction". That's why I chose "memories" and "ego document".

You could also choose "history" or even "sociology". But I can only see the story of 1 specific family as "history" or "sociology", if the described events are exemplary for more families in a certain area, in a certain period. The book seems to be more about unraveling a drama within 1 specific family (although this family as a Catholic family can possibly be regarded as exemplary).

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June 20, 2013 12:56

Then the following is correct for sociology ??

3841591

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June 20, 2013 13:04

Not in my opinion, just like History and Politics. The book is just a literary novel based on childhood memories, without scientific pretensions.

When in books Themes (or keywords) can be entered, you might be able to add those terms.

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June 20, 2013 13:14

Guess 2960375 is not really appropriate under English literature

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