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I would classify this book as "espionage", but there is a tendency to include the work of very good crime and spy writers as "literature". In this case I understand that. John LeCarré is a very big one.

Among the youth there is also a tendency to call all reading "literature" (presumably by analogy with "professional literature"). I am not in favor of that.

With the previous one, I rely on the judgment of Boekenmagazijn.

The entire term 'Dutch literature' should be deleted immediately. To begin with, that "Dutch" adds nothing. Or are we also going to add German kids \ youth and Italian sheet music. Indeed, we do not. And with good reason. So get rid of those additions Dutch, English.

Remains "Literature". But that is not really useful either, because it is not a value-free concept. Whether a writing is of any level at all is very personal (did someone there say Kluun?). It is therefore not suitable as a catalog label. Something is fiction or non-fiction. And if it is fiction, it is a novel, a novella, poetry or whatever, but it is therefore not literature. If only because the types of Pulp and kitchen girl novel are (and rightly so) not used either.

So that book by Lordernie is just a novel! And as a genre you can choose history, autobiography or I know a lot.

Much of this misery is because what in books is called 'kind' is still a fairly incomplete and randomly composed receptacle of types, genres and sheer nonsense.

It's no wonder that users get lost and this kind of thing to do.

Users only do this if they are given the opportunity.

The species Struwwelpeter was (only) added by an administrator on 20-03-2013.

What would be in the manual on the definition of Species?

PS I would limit the term (Dutch) Literature (as far as the type book is concerned) to books about literature, such as 1581111 .
In that context Spionage should also be called Espionage roman , unless only non-fiction like 2466775 is included.

@Boekenmagazijn: For books about literature there is the kind of "secondary literature.

@pegag: When you talk about" The silence of Maria Zachea ", it is not" just a novel ". In the Wikipedia the book is listed as a "debut novel", but elsewhere on the internet I sometimes found it classified under Non-fiction. Quite recently an anniversary edition appeared with photos of the family, which also points to Non-fiction. In short, it is very clear. It all seems reality.

Certain choices from the past cannot always be called happy in retrospect, but I do not see any reason to explode in anger as yet. I actually don't have one myself.

That item wasn't approved yet, was it, Dick? Well then.

As you may have noticed, I don't care at all and I approve of almost everything in terms of Kind. Who am I to question the importer's perception? And if you then change it to something else, then I probably approve it again, because who am I to question your perception?

.... if you change it to something else afterwards, I will probably approve it again, because who am I .......

. .. someone who doesn't feel like having to inspect the same item every day ??

Yes, exactly!

On a book, the author writes: a cheerful satire on .....

But satire is not there and the author has actually written a novel and not a satire! If even the author makes it difficult;)

placed the book 3846687 under theology, but it really doesn't belong there. I don't really think that they are religious exercises and religion.

Something else, what is the difference between literary thriller and thriller?

Probably literary thriller can be deleted otherwise we will start again as mentioned earlier with Dutch Literary Fiction Thriller;)

A satire can be a novel. If it's a hilarious novel, you might consider adding it (also) to the "humor" kind.

The subdivision is not sophisticated enough to give each book an exactly matching type. We have to be a little open-minded about that. I find "theology" appropriate enough to describe the kind of a book on religion. And "Religion" I also count correctly.

The layout is less of a problem than you think. In principle, you decide for yourself which type a book falls under. After all, it is your book. And if you think you cannot organize the book, you can always choose "Other".

As an administrator, I usually keep your choice, unless I have a much better idea, I can supplement a type or the chosen type cannot be directly related to the item (if the choice is not correct is).

But please take it easy. It's not a big deal. The types are, I think, intended as possibilities, not constraints.

Een literaire thriller is anders dan een thriller, omdat de uitgever dat aangeeft.

Boeken krijgen een zogenaamde NUR-code mee (vroeger een NUGI-code) en code 305 staat voor Literaire thriller, code 332 staat voor thriller. De betreffende code staat meestal vermeld in het colofon van het boek.

Voorbeelden van de NUR-codes zijn:

300 Literaire fictie algemeen
301 Literaire roman, novelle
302 Vertaalde literaire roman, novelle
303 Verhalenbundels
304 Vertaalde verhalenbundels
305 Literaire thriller
306 Poezie
307 Toneel, - theater- en filmteksten, ook scenario's
308 Klassieke oudheid (teksten)
309 Bloemlezingen

310 Pockets algemeen
311 Pockets literaire fictie
312 Pockets populaire fictie
313 Pockets spanning
314 Pockets non-fictie
315 Vertaalde pockets

320 Literaire non-fictie algemeen
321 Biografieen literaire auteurs
322 Briefwisselingen literaire auteurs
323 Literaire essays
324 Literaire tijdschriften
325 Gebundelde literaire columns

330 Spannende boeken algemeen
331 Detective
332 Thriller
333 Science fiction
334 Fantasy
335 Griezel- en spookverhalen, horror
336 Avonturenroman
337 Oorlogs- en verzetsroman
338 Spionageroman
339 True crime

340 Populaire fiction algemeen
341 Esoterische en spirituele roman
342 Historische roman (populair)
343 Romantiek
344 Streek- en familieromans
345 Volkssprookjes, sagen en legenden

350 Fictie overig algemeen

360 Strips algemeen
361 Strips voor algemeen publiek (8-80 jaar)
362 Strips voor kinderen (geen informatieve strips)
363 Realistische strips voor volwassenen
364 Geschiedkundige strips
365 Informatieve stripverhalen (<12 jaar)
366 Informatieve stripverhalen (>12 jaar)
 

370 Cadeauboeken algemeen
371 Cartoons
372 Humor
373 Gedichten (populair)

A literary thriller is different from a thriller because the publisher indicates so.

Books are given a so-called NUR code (formerly a NUGI code) and code 305 stands for Literary thriller, code 332 stands for thriller. The relevant code is usually stated in the colophon of the book.

Examples of the NUR codes are:

300 Literary fiction in general
301 Literary novel, short story
302 Translated literary novel, short story
303 Collections of Stories
304 Translated collections of short stories
305 Literary thriller
306 Poetry
307 Theatre, - theater and film texts, including screenplays
308 Classical antiquity (texts)
309 Anthologies

310 Pockets general
311 Pockets Literary Fiction
312 Pockets popular fiction
313 Pocket's Tension
314 Pockets non-fiction
315 Translated paperbacks

320 Literary non-fiction in general
321 Biographies and literary authors
322 Correspondences literary authors
323 Literary Essays
324 Literary magazines
325 Bundled literary columns

330 Exciting books in general
331 Detective
332 Thriller
333 science fiction
334 fantasy
335 Creepy and ghost stories, horror
336 Adventure Novel
337 War and resistance novel
338 Spy Novel
339 Truecrime

340 Popular fiction in general
341 Esoteric and spiritual novel
342 Historical novel (popular)
343 Romance
344 Regional and family novels
345 Folk fairy tales, sagas and legends

350 Fiction other general

360 Comics general
361 General Audience Comics (ages 8-80)
362 Children's Comics (Not Informational Comics)
363 Realistic Comics for Adults
364 Historical Comics
365 Informative comic strips (<12 years)
366 Informative comic strips (>12 years)

370 Gift books in general
371 Cartoons
372 Humour
373 Poems (Popular)

At Catawiki, we don't necessarily have anything to do with what a publisher thinks a book is, although it can be a guideline. Those publishers also put 'graphic novel' on an adventure story about WW2.

Of course there are always exceptions and mistakes to be found.
As a general guideline, however, it can provide quite a bit of guidance.

No, I think Arco is right.

"A literary thriller is different from a thriller because the publisher says so." ???

No, a thriller is a literary thriller, if it has sufficient literary quality. Now the question is of course who makes that difference. But you cannot leave that assessment to a party that has a commercial interest in this product. That's a bit too naive.

The literary thriller was conceived as a concept by the marketing people at a publisher.
Now let's not attach too much importance to whether or not a thriller is "correct" as being literary.

In addition, you should only be able to give such an indication AFTER the book has been read and assessed. Isn't it much easier to adopt the NUR code as it is in the book?

Because thrillers and literary thrillers have now been given their own target group, it is in the interest of the publishers to name "their" book correctly to reach the right target audience. That is their commercial interest.

For the record, I think it's a superfluous genre, so we might agree.

It might seem easier to use the NUR codes, but in reality it isn't, because Catawiki is not set up for that. Then the system would have to be radically changed and that costs money.

When a genre is popular, there is never enough of it. Then it is often not in the interest of the publisher to name books correctly, but to find the right books to cat them.

I would have liked the item 3876773 in textbook and arithmetic, but both do not exist so I have put it under mathematics, although there are few mathematical theorems in it.

Changed "mathematics" to "youth textbook". O.K.?

As answered to the personal message:

I can hardly consider children of 5 years old as a student;)

I myself can better imagine 5 year old children as studying youth than as mathematicians. It seems to me that progress has nevertheless been made.

Youth is youth. It looks like a discussion we've had before :-)

Then something else;)

Have an Electrostatic book 3876983 imported Wall.E, could only put it in stapled booklet

The first image shows staples, so staple booklet doesn't really seem wrong. I don't know what else it should be and it doesn't seem right to introduce a new type of book for 1 different edition.