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May 31, 2010 16:12

I'm working on Los Lobos and Calexico and I miss Tex-Mex / Tejano or will that also be placed as a subgenre?
I can see Cajun there.

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hi
I haven't read all the responses yet, but I think genres that are internationally important to collectors should be carefully considered.
eg Northern Soul is very big in England. A very separate subculture around dance clubs in Northern England in the seventies. The scene revolved around DJs with obscure Soul-like USA import singles.
The labels were even taped or removed so that the competition could not know what they were playing.
Meanwhile, those singles of which, for example, only one copy is known, are going away for crazy prices on ebay.
The most expensive is Frank Wilson-Do i love you indeed i do and sold for £ 15,000. I'll put him there for a while.
After that many collectors / lps were released / made on reissue labels on KENT , Charly etc. It was and still is big. Belgium also has something similar with Popcorn.
I think it is important A. for the music B. because it attracts seekers to the Catawiki. What do you think.
I think the latter should be the criteria, because with unbridled expansion you will undoubtedly get a lot of confusion and work for the administrators. That too is important at the moment I think
what do you think?

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June 02, 2010 22:02

@joehillouis

Totally agree. Also take a look at “agreements country”. In short, it means that we may start an administrator consultation or possibly via the web, depending on the interest. Perhaps you also want to contribute?

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Hi everyone
I just put in my single from the White Waves but I miss the category indo rock! Now only put at nederbeat.
Is it difficult to expand the genres?

Catawiki number: 1181005

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I'm in chevy

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June 13, 2010 14:01

A first step

for the Netherlands and Belgium
Indo-rock
Dialect pop & gt; & gt; & gt; as on flemish pop wiki
Cabaret (Belgium)
Unlinking Dutch and Cabaret
Pirate music & gt; or smartlapping or whatever the enthusiasts prefer to call it.

What I especially miss are collector's terms such as Ebay.
the most important for us in the Netherlands

Indo rock & gt; & gt; This really can't be missed !!!!
Freakbeat (Ebay etc)

continue

60s Garage Rock (American, which also includes a lot of Nederbeat).
Doo wop
Northern Soul & gt; the greatest among soul on ebay
Alternative + add indie & gt; the largest among Rock on ebay
otherwise you could separate pop and rock.
Pop and Rock split up “Pop” and Classic Rock or Mainstream Rock & gt; & gt; & gt; Boston & gt; & gt; Arrowrock ish etc. ??
Joe

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quote As a guideline we take the American All Misic Guide.

I don't have the book, but just went to the website. If the book has the same format as the website, I still have a number of questions:
1) will you also be working with "Genre" and "Styles"?
2) there is really an overkill of categories. I'm already struggling to distinguish between pop and rock

The genres don't seem very logical to me either

Pop / rock : OK
Jazz : OK
R & amp; B (if you mix pop and rock together, why have a separate category for this, that's just black pop / rock / blues)
Rap (then why not a genre "schlager" or "chanson?)
Country (that is folk music and should be with "International" or "World music unless North America deserves preferential treatment).
Blues : OK
Electronic : "Dance" actually, OK then
Latin : See Country
Reggae : See Latin
International (World Music) : Apparently that's the "Dirt Bin"
Classic : OK

Edit: I now notice that there are more "Genres", but I can't find the full list.
Vocal : OK, Rap is part of this
Folk : See Latin, Country, Reggae, World Music
New Age : Oxygene is psychedelic / electronic pop-rock
Easy Listening : OK

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Then why not a genre "schlager" or "chanson?

Maybe because it's an american format? With American blinders, which means that the Teutonic and Gallic bards receive less attention there than on this side of the great herring pond?

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Maybe because it's an American format? With American blinders, which means that the Teutonic and Gallic bards receive less attention there than on this side of the great herring pond?

I would say absolutely don't. Americans are nice guys, you can have a good laugh with them (just look at Fox News and the Tea Party) and they have been making very good television series recently, but in terms of objectivity and non-chauvinism they are really not the benchmark.

Edit: I was wrong about Rap, that's regional / ethnic / subculture so I have to go to World Music

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October 07, 2010 21:56

Given all the responses, there are more people who have problems with the different genres.

Maybe I have misread that Latin or Latin American (a very wide area!) Is classified under country.

Furthermore, there is a genre Americana, no idea what that is.

It looks like 'Classical' seems to be a receptacle in which everything that is not modern must be put in. Eg Opera and operetta fit in there if there is no need for further distinction, but 'Musical' is a borderline case that cannot be ignored. and not under "modern composers" or anything like that.

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You cannot avoid working with main and subgenres if you want to make everyone happy and keep things organized. In Rock or Dance alone you have an endless series of subgenres, each of which defines a certain style and that will apply to all genres.

What I find the most disturbing now is that the entire genre Electronic cannot be chosen. Not everything is Dance, House and Techno that is made with the computer ...

I really miss now:
Industrial
Electro
Ambient
Experimental

I would say allow users to create their own genres (within 1 main genre).

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It would be best if someone could make a proposal for the main genres with an initial interpretation of the subgenres. Then I make sure that both genre fields are there and we can continue working from there.

OK, start with Rock :)

see the right side http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_music

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Regardless of this discussion, "progressive rock" is misspelled, can that be changed?

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Regardless of this discussion, "progressive rock" is misspelled, can that be changed?

Done!

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To René

This is now really called extinguishing fires, and even then the fire is not extinguished properly

They asked for "progressive rock" and now it says "progressive rock". I already have an aversion to uncritically adopted English terms, but then you have to be consistent and mention "Psychedelic rock" instead of "psychedelic rock".

The essence is that we were allowed to vote on the improvement of the data to be entered. I don't notice many changes yet ... Have patience until 2020?

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@ tapir

Rene has asked for a proposal for a genre division in this topic, and no one has come up with a proposal ...

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On the blouw

Please read under the heading "Agreements about adding data" the section "voting"

Mi. a decision has not yet been reached. If you want a new structure, it must first be mapped out before you fill in its parts

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On the blouw

Please read under the heading "Agreements about adding data" the section "voting"

Mi. a decision has not yet been reached. If you want a new structure, it must first be defined before you fill in its parts.

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They asked for "progressive rock" and now it says "progressive rock". I already have an aversion to uncritically adopted English terms, but then you have to be consistent and mention "Psychedelic rock" instead of "psychedelic rock".

I had based on the first Debouw post in this thread. There everything was in English but I see that we also have psychedelic rock indeed. Has now been changed to NL.

Some administrators have made a genre division into 2 levels. FransS should post it quickly in the forum so you can respond to it. The intention is that we implement the genre classification quickly because the current classification is indeed very unbalanced.

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Sorry, but if possible I would very much like to add "Electronic", at least. It's great that we can vote for all subgenres, but a whole main genre is dropped here.

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As René mentioned above, we have a proposal regarding a genre classification. This proposal emerged from an administrators meeting and was subsequently posted in the administrators forum.

We have 2 levels: a "main" genre and below that several "sub" genres.

Of course the list is not complete and we are open to suggestions. Don't wait too long with that, because the programmers want to get started.

Main genres with subgenres:

Blues:

  • Bluesrock
  • British blues
  • Cajun / Zydeco
  • Delta blues
  • Jump and jive
  • Pre-warblues
  • R & amp; B (Chicagoblues)
  • Texas blues

Chansons:

Country:

  • Americana

Disco:

  • Italo-disco

Electronic:

  • Dance
  • Emo
  • Hardcore
  • House
  • Techno

Folk:

  • British folk (Fairport Convention)
  • American folk (Baez, Guthrie, Seeger)
  • Gospel / Spirituals
  • Singer / songwriter

Jazz:

  • Avant-garde jazz
  • Bebop
  • Big band
  • Dixieland

Classic:

  • Modern composers
  • Opera
  • Operetta
  • Ancient composers

Latin:

  • Calypso
  • Rumba
  • Salsa
  • Tango
  • Zouk

Metal and Hard Rock:

  • Gothic
  • Speed

Dutch:

  • Cabaret
  • Radio plays
  • Children's songs
  • Nederpop
  • Pirates
  • Smartlap (song of life)

Pop and Rock:

  • Alternative rock
  • Indo rock
  • Instrumental (Shadows, Ventures)
  • Nederbeat (Motions, Q65)
  • Progressive rock
  • Rock and roll
  • Rockabilly
  • Symphonic rock

Punk and New Wave:

Rap and Hiphop:

  • Gangsta rap

Reggae and Ska:

Soul:

  • Old soul (Stax, Volt, Atlantic)
  • R & amp; B (R. Kelly)

Schlager:

Soundtrack:

  • Movie
  • Musical

Spoken Words:

World music:

  • African
  • Arabic
  • Balkans
  • Flamenco
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December 13, 2010 11:03

Jazz:

cooljazz

fusion

jazz rock

jazzfunk

funk

free jazz

boogie woogie

swing

minimal

and as a precursor: ragtime

I do think that you should have looked a little more on the internet to see what possible types are ...

And then I am really curious where I should place my enormous collection of Frank Zappa / Mothers of Invention. Under Pop I don't find a good denominator ...

Take a look at this: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_musicstyles_per_genre#Jazz

I actually hoped that you as music connoisseurs would have ended up on this page. Now you are reinventing the wheel, and unfortunately not too good.

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@ 1955-chevy

I went through the old posts again and found your comment a bit strange that you could not link Gene Vincent and Rock and Roll, but Status Quo.

I really thought that Gene Vincent, among others, was at the basis of Rock and Roll, where Chuck Berry and Little Richard are the Godfathers ...

Is that because you don't know that old guard at all

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Gene Vincent could never have been at the base, years late and the wrong color ;-)

That honor really goes to people like Ike Turner and Big Mama Thornton.

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December 13, 2010 12:04

Then take a look at this ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Vincent

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