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January 28, 2021 11:31

It's a bit off topic, but I can't quite follow the reasoning (nor is it explained anywhere in the series). If parts without a number and price are distributed for free to promote the series, then it is understandable that they are called advertising expenses. But if there was a number and a price, weren't they just being sold?

Or do you mean that it is actually not a deviating print, but just a different PRINT on the ad version? Complicated.

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Dear Morits,

You absolutely do not respond substantively, but stick to existing rules and examples.

This is exactly what I meant by a technocrat, don't think, but refer to rules devised by third parties.

In addition, each print has a different reverse side so that is not an argument and what do you mean by variations in fonts. Also your comment "It is crazy to assume that series are broken down and everything has to be stored in detail, because a user is dissatisfied" does not make sense, because I do not want the series to be broken up in an advertisement and not advertising part.

You can't read well either, because my goal is to make my collection transparent on LastDodo, for the rest I just give arguments, based on appearance and guidelines from LastDodo and you only give reference to how it is and should be done stay.

In addition, it is quite possible that the advertising issues are actually the first edition, as there is no reference to later issues, but may have been published to persuade people to subscribe to later volumes.

BTW I also entered the advertising number 19 Huckleberry Fin and it is now just between the regular IC's. Nobody complains about that!

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January 28, 2021 12:57

No one complains about that!

Hereby: 8418269 has been wrongly approved, because it is a duplicate of 503357 or 7437951 (I honestly don't see any difference between the two).

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January 28, 2021 13:12

True Stripspeldjes.

The numbers 503357 and 7437951 are the same and are both in the series Illustrated Classics Commercials.

I entered number 8418269 because I couldn't find it in the Illustrated Classics series, not knowing that it was in the Advertising series and entered it there.

The numbers 503357 and 7437951 were initially also entered under Illustrated Classics and then moved to the Advertising series. So it turns out that I am not the only one who is introducing these releases as standard IC.

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January 28, 2021 13:19

Incidentally, there are many duplicates in Illustrated Classics Advertising.

It concerns the numbers 18 to 21, which were almost all first in IC and then transferred to IC Advertising.

Solution to avoid confusion and duplication: Clear Illustrated Classics Commercials (another Morits argument).

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January 28, 2021 13:49

The numbers 503357 and 7437951 are the same and are both in the series Illustrated Classics Advertising


That could be, but depends on whether 503357 has an identical page to the others.

Incidentally, there are many duplicates in Illustrated Classics Advertising.

Real duplications can be indicated in the usual way.


The numbers 503357 and 7437951 were initially also entered under Illustrated Classics and then moved to the Advertising series


Comics administrators determine the series format.

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January 28, 2021 14:27

The numbers 503357 and 7437951 are the same and are both in the series Illustrated Classics Advertising

the mentioned numbers are different from each other, but you have to look carefully. In the 'book' on the cover, where normally the price and number are stated, the middle pillar is broken (skewed) and is therefore a different edition.

Edit: do I still have to chuck ...

The albums that are there now are all different because there are deviations in the font used in the 'book' on the cover. Some figures also have different formats, but then you have to take a good look and have all the ICs in your own hands and I have them ...

I still have to find out about part 20, there are a few editions that are not correct, I still have to compare them with my own copies, but I am not going to do this yet, first fix my moving problems.

I will also replace all ugly photos, but that is for the long winter evenings when I have nothing to do ...

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I don't see the differences, but I didn't learn about them. Also seems strange to me that you make different printings for advertising publications.

Furthermore, I understand that the ranks are closing and that technocracy wins.

Too bad!

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January 28, 2021 18:15

The one thing we can all agree on is that there are two different parts. Perhaps (according to the feeling) within one larger whole, but the catalog is not a tree structure (that took me a while to comprehend).

Since the parts can be clearly distinguished into two series, it does not seem logical to me to put everything in one series and then come up with tricks to still be able to make a division within that series in order to be able to see that difference.

This is just my opinion. Without wanting to close ranks, not thinking out of the box, agreeing to someone or whatever ...

PS I also think that the advertising sequence is a bit hidden (which made me miss out on size). Some clarification or guidance at the top of the background page might help.

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Dear JosefK

There are also clear differences between the first editions and the reprints, which are not split into other parts, are they?

In addition, the question remains as to whether the advertising issues are not the first editions, because later issues are not mentioned in that series. This can be cleared up if there is a priced version where the later songs are also not listed and I have not found it. The so-called first editions all have later numbers on the back, so they cannot possibly be first editions.

I think this whole situation is bizarre: A volunteer, who absolutely can't think outside the box, dictates LastDodo's catalog policy, while his only argument is, that's how we did it and that's how it should stay.

BTW: You may be able to recognize the differences between the numbers 503357 and 7437951, because I don't think there are any.

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January 29, 2021 13:33

There are also clear differences between the first editions and the reprints, which are not split into other parts, are they?

Correct, because they belong to the same series.

In addition, the question is still open whether the advertising issues are not the first editions, because later issues are not mentioned in that series.

You can, but they don't have to be in the same string just yet.

I think this whole situation is bizarre

It is not surprising that an administrator tries to maintain the structure that is the basis of the catalog and thus respect the agreements and layouts made.

Ultimately it boils down to the difference between series and series. If you click on the right series, you will see (as you expect) all classics, both regular and commercials. as here .

The only problem is that the classics are not a series, but a series. I understand that that is not quite right for you, but from the bigger picture that is the normal course of events.

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Every time I am amazed I read how the explanation is the way it is now, while the arguments are piling up against it.

The reprints are the same series, but the advertising editions are not, while these are from the same publisher, the same series and the same format, etc. They are just booklets and not stickers, key rings or other promotional items.

The distinction is only based on an interpretation that can be easily revised and could do justice to the unexamined part of the prints.

If the advertising issues are actually the first edition, then they simply belong to the series and otherwise one can save a lot of confusion by combining both series.

"It is not surprising that an administrator tries to maintain the structure that is the basis of the catalog and thus respect the agreements and formats made" is exactly why so much goes wrong in the real world. If you do not continuously evaluate whether rules are correct, people will freeze and that will lead to further technocratization of society.

Finally, using the word "must" in this context is indeed just closing the rows.

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