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November 15, 2014 12:49

It's just the blue print corridor that is missing.

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Of course not "normal" !

If the auctioneer of CW values this Jommeke misprint as a reasonable condition and this is also the standard of CW, I have to adjust all my comic books on CW; the bad condition and fair condition to good condition and the good condition to near mint condition or even mint condition

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November 15, 2014 13:27

do I have to adjust all my comic books on CW; the poor condition and fair condition to good condition and the good condition to near mint or even mint condition

Yep, because destroyed due to private binding already falls under " very good condition " :-)

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November 15, 2014 14:24

It does indeed seem that a can of auctioneers has been opened and they take it with a grain of salt.

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November 16, 2014 10:36

It indeed seems that a can of auctioneers has been opened and they take it with a grain of salt.

if you are looking for a bee you can see that most auctioneers or have their own toko and / or also work for other auction sites only at Tammo, the catawiki team is permanently employed, so the rest probably works on commission, that's the way it is in the evil world out there everyone has to have their own booterham,

as has been said before, without an auction, there is no longer a catalog that was probably long defunct and you should not buy blindly at an auction, but first check for yourself where there are other options which is not there, you put a limit on what condition you want it in and for what max price.

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November 16, 2014 14:16

most auctioneers either have their own toko and/or also work for other auction sites, only Tammo has a catawiki team, so it is permanently employed, the rest probably work on commission, that's just how it is

I'm talking about the auctioneers who estimate the value of comics and whether they are permanent employees or work on commission, I don't care, there are now 2 standards, you have a catalog value and an auction value and they differ quite a bit.

the rest probably works on commission, that's just how it is in the evil world out there, everyone has to earn their own living

Yes I say that>

Indeed, it seems that a can of auctioneers has been opened and they take it with a grain of salt.

as has often been remarked before, without an auction there would be no catalog anymore, which would probably have been defunct long ago

Where do you get that wisdom from? First CW was a catalog site, later it became an auction site, but a catalog site can also exist, perhaps with the help of sponsors, and perhaps that is not even necessary yet because there is still a catalog site, which has existed since 2002 without sponsors (so no advertising). third parties on their site)

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I'm talking about the auctioneers who estimate the value of comics and whether they are permanent employees or work on commission I don't care there are now 2 measures you have a catalog value and an auction value and they differ quite a bit.

The catalog values are entered and managed by catalog administrators. Auctioneers make an estimate of a lot as described by the seller. The estimate is an estimate of the current market value during an auction. But it remains human work and an auction offers no guarantee of low or high returns.

Indeed, it seems that a can of auctioneers has been opened and they take it with a grain of salt.

The Comic Auctions have been working for a long time with the same team of auctioneers. Contrary to what Baroncelerie-54 suggests, auctioneers at Catawiki do not work on a commission basis.

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November 16, 2014 18:45

@Auctionmaster

Auctioneers make an estimate of a lot as described by the provider.

But the provider also includes photos, 1 picture says more than 1000 words if the seller says that the comic book is in a reasonable condition and you get these pictures with it ...

The estimate is an estimate of the current market value during an auction .

Here you have a point, because there is no comparison material of lot 129 on which you can base the current market value, if there was a similar copy in the catalog then you could attach a value to it . I have previously mentioned the inclusion of comic misprints in the catalog, but opinions are quite divided on this and that is why they are not there yet.

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Here you have a point, because there is no comparison material of lot 129 on which you can base the current market value, if there was a similar copy in the catalog then you could attach a value to it.

To date, it has become apparent that no high amounts were paid for misprints on strips. This is in contrast to stamps and coins, where huge amounts are added because something went wrong during the making. Very curious if this lot will yield a large amount.

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November 16, 2014 20:28

Exceptions aside: 124467

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November 16, 2014 20:44

To date, it has been found that large amounts were not paid for misprints in comics

That's correct.

Exceptions

It changes when it's the first printing. Then it's just the first edition, unfortunately with an error. Because part of the edition is gone, it is becoming rare. People don't look for this album because it's a misprint, but because it's the first printing.

So the statement still stands.

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It changes when it is the first edition. Then it is just the first edition, unfortunately with an error. Because part of the edition has disappeared, it is becoming rare. People are not looking for this album because it is a misprint, but because it is the first edition.

True, but the big difference between the Bluecoats and this Agent is that the has been made known and only appeared to the Agent afterwards.

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November 16, 2014 21:01

And of course this 5049351 with which this topic started

And that's already 2 of the 2 only comic misprints in the catalog with higher values than the regular comics, and then you don't have to think about huge amounts. But it is also about the reference from which the auctioneers can also get information, it does not always have to be about money. The catalog was made by collectors for collectors and whether some people like it or not, there are also collectors of comic misprints.

Very curious if this lot will yield a large amount.

I'm a comic misprint collector myself and as I said before:

The condition is also important and Jommeke is not really in a good condition, in my opinion a bad condition.

If it wasn't a comic misprint and in this condition, I would have put it with the old paper, but it is a comic misprint in poor condition and I would have paid 15.00 euros for it.

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November 16, 2014 21:18

And that there are already 2 of the 2 only comic misprints in the catalog with higher values than the regular comics

The value does not increase because it is a misprint, but because it is a rare first edition.

Of this blue sparrowhawk (second edition with modified spelling) is a known misprint (misassembly) but I'd rather not have that. I wouldn't expect a very high price for it either.

By the way of this Beware-lobe-nut has a reasonable number of misprints, a pity that it is not yet in the catalog (it is mentioned in the details). But you also pay much less for that than the 'successful' edition, although the other is also a first edition.

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November 16, 2014 21:25

@JosephK

I took a look at your experiment

But a nice experiment at the auction: here you can see what a misprint yields

And if you keep the regular prices of 1636725 , the comic misprint is officially currently worth more than a good condition Jommeke , so I think your experiment has already been very successful and I didn't even bid.

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And there are already 2 of the 2 only comic misprints in the catalog with higher values than the regular

Where do you get that from? 'Green fingers' has nowhere proven to be sold for a higher price than the regular price.

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And if you stick to the regular prices of 1636725 is therefore officially worth more than a good state of comic print at the moment. Jommeke

Too bad there is a shop owner who does not cooperate with your proof. He offers this album in good condition for 30 euros ...

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Where do you get that from? 'Green fingers' has nowhere proven to be sold for a higher price than the regular price.

It is even still available for the regular price ...

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Where do you get that from? 'Green fingers' has not yet been sold for a higher price than the regular price anywhere.

Arco you are right I am getting ahead of things ;-)

Too bad there is a shop owner who is not cooperating with your proof. He offers this album in good condition for 30 euros...

Rik I'm talking about list prices I assume it's an average of the actual sales prices and that's right because it also includes a shop owner who offers a good condition for 15.00 you're still on average at 15.00 euros spot on with the catalog value. But let's face it we're talking about a good regular comic and a bad condition comic misprint.

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November 16, 2014 23:22

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The value does not increase because it is a misprint, but because it is a rare first edition

That's your opinion, my opinion is the value not only increases because it is a rare 1st edition but also a misprint.

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Also in reissues by Franka in collaboration with. Catawiki contains spelling mistakes! In any case 1!

Strange that this was not corrected in time ...

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November 19, 2014 23:02

JozefK's experiment has ended the Jommeke bad condition comic misprint has yielded 60.00 euros you can look here

This not only indicates that a comic print is a fully-fledged collector's item and certainly worthwhile to include in a catalog to be included, but it is also worth more than a Jommeke regular comic in new condition from 1961 for 30.00 euros 1636725

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November 19, 2014 23:40

Congratulations on your purchase!

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Arc

Congratulations on your purchase!

Yes, it was me, I bid every time, it was a bit of work to create 6 identities, but it pays off except for bidder 9903 , so Arco better next time ;-))

But Arco tell me honestly, were you the winning bidder, I'm a comic print collector but you also have a nice collection of comic misprints

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November 21, 2014 11:56

By the way of this Beware lobe nut there is a reasonable number of misprints, a pity that it is not yet in the catalog (it is mentioned in the details).

You say something, I can add ... this weekend I hope! :-)

edit: added, Catawiki number: 5088036

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November 21, 2014 13:51

Good plan Clemi!

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