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It is me blaming and intimidating threatening behavior of Ted who wants to silence us SATURDAY

Unfortunately my message is misunderstood. I do not want to silence or censor anyone, I just want decent communication without calling each other rotten fish and I always do this with a friendly request to nuance the language in accordance with the rules of decency of the forum.

Unfortunately, Sindbad did not understand that and so, after several warnings beforehand, I asked him to refrain from any comments on the forum for the time being. Not as censorship, not to silence him, but for the simple reason that he doesn't obey the rules of decency. We will not tolerate this from anyone. Now it is me who puts him on the penalty bench, but it might as well have been one of the other moderators.

@ Micho.

Regarding the adaptation of kings and queens, there are developments in discussion that will soon solve this more easily.

If this can be achieved then all your work that you are doing now on the above waste of your time and you better spend it on other adjustments.

Micho,

not only his night's rest!

Rob

Regarding the adaptation of kings and queens, there are developments in discussion that will soon solve this more easily.

This is a tip of the veil.

That in turn shows the frustration.

There are all developments that we are not aware of.

I also made many adjustments in 2012 and then I have to years later to see that it is only a partial change. A lot of work and only a partial solution.

Too bad for the time.

But we remain positive.

Sincerely,

Micho Rooseboom, a collector

@Micho

In elke vereniging weten de leden niet wat er besproken en gedaan wordt bij/door het bestuur.

Alleen op de jaarlijkse vergadering verneem je wat tenzij je tussentijds een bestuurder aanschiet.

Inzake deze hebben min. 2 personen een verzoek ingediend om o.a. bij de thema's automatische koppelingen te maken.

Bijv. Paard dan wordt automatisch ook aangeklikt bij dieren, zoogdieren, huisdieren en misschien nog wel meer.

Dat voorkomt een hoop werk en de zaken staan er gelijk zo uitvoerig mogelijk in.

Ik hoop dat deze zgn. sluier iest is weggenomen.

Maar zo zijn er nog veel meer verschillende verzoeken door diverse personen ingediend bij de BC waarop deze, na bespreken, verwerkt en bekend gemaakt zullen worden neem ik aan.

Al je wensen en aanbevelingen kan je indienen bij de BC.

Succes.

@Micho

In every association, the members do not know what is being discussed and done by the board.

You only hear something at the annual meeting, unless you approach a director in the meantime.

With regard to this, at least 2 people have submitted a request to make automatic links to the themes, among other things.

E.g. Horse then is automatically clicked on animals, mammals, pets and maybe even more.

That prevents a lot of work and the things are immediately as detailed as possible.

I hope that this so-called veil has been removed.

But there are many more different requests submitted by various people to the BC, which, after discussion, will be processed and announced, I assume.

You can submit all your wishes and recommendations to the BC.

Good luck.

@Rob

Thank you for this communication. That helps me. It is important to know when a decision will be taken. Now I am still busy adding the theme of animals to many birds. This is to get a good picture of my own collection.

Be careful with adding themes automatically. In this case, the term horses must first be properly defined. Does this also include donkeys and zebras, that is, equines? Then I find it strange to get the addition of pet with a zebra. Also, other types of horses have existed in prehistoric times. These in all probability have never been domesticated. The pet motif does not fit here either. So this must be carefully considered.

I gave just one example.

Could also be Birds, animals, etc.

King, head of state, royal family, etc.

But here comes the BC will be out when the time comes. I assume these individuals are capable enough.

Rob

That would be a great step in the right direction.

But I remain skeptical.

I have heard many great stories. I hope it will not end with a "story" "".

It would indeed save a lot of work.

Kind regards,

Micho Rooseboom, a collector

By coincidence I ran into this topic, it is quite bizarre that people who have been fighting against windmills for a good cause here for years, do not achieve any results and are also silenced because they are overflowing with frustration about it . Many stamp collectors themselves now know better how to see this, just as is the case with many comic collectors in relation to abuses.

The big question is why these kinds of things can continue to exist on Catawiki, after apparently numerous times. to be raised. I am not concerned about what I see, I have reported it and then it is ready for me. Still, I think a number of things are clearly the result of management failures, hence this response.

BMG72

Thank you for your response.

By coincidence I ran into this topic, it is quite bizarre that people who have been here against windmills for years fighting for the right cause, not achieving any results and then also being silenced because they are overflowing with frustration about it. Many stamp collectors themselves now know better how to see this, just as is the case with many comic collectors in relation to abuses.

Due to the large import of new stamps, this will be broken in the long term and get stuck. Many volunteers and administrators give the pipe to Maarten.

The Netherlands is full of stamp collectors and baby boomers who have a lot of time. Catawiki should make use of this and treat it with respect, then the site will be able to change positively even faster.

Today the background information for children's thank you cards has been further added. There are also volunteers who have further expanded the information today. So one step further.

Thanks again.

Micho Rooseboom, a collector

You're welcome Micho. If the structure is not set up properly in the beginning, the difficulties become increasingly greater over time, as has also been shown here. But it seems as if René cs do not really have any problems with this.

As long as it is not the case that Catawiki as a platform must be made as large as possible as quickly as possible, through as few investments as possible, in order to then with a profit of millions to transfer to Ebay, for example. All volunteers will of course not see a single cent of that in that case

Then I already claim the new name for Ebay, Marktplaats and Catawiki:

EMC2 free to Einstein ....

MBG72

Als het nu maar niet zo is dat Catawiki als platform zo snel mogelijk zo groot mogelijk gemaakt moet worden, via zo min mogelijk investeringen, om het daarna met een miljoenenwinst over te doen aan bijv. Ebay. Alle vrijwilligers zien daar natuurlijk ook geen cent meer van terug in dat geval.

Deze discussie werd ook al uitgebreid op het forum gevoerd.

Nu veel werk verzetten en over enkele jaren contributie moeten betalen?

Ik deel u verontrusting.

mvg

Micho Rooseboom, een verzamelaar

MBG72

As long as it is not the case that Catawiki as a platform must be made as large as possible as quickly as possible, through as few investments as possible, and then hand it over to e.g. Ebay with a profit of millions. All volunteers will of course not see a penny in return in that case.

This discussion has already been discussed extensively on the forum.

Do a lot of work now and have to pay a contribution in a few years?

I share your concern.

Best regards

Micho Rooseboom, a collector

@Micho:

Interesting, do you have a link to this discussion? Can't find it that quickly.

Thanks in advance!

Still just searched and read this entire thread:

http://forum.catawiki.nl/forums/33-nieuws/topics/11127-important-changes-for-sellers?page=6

Now that I have read this, it seems to me less and less unlikely that Catawiki will be more and more converted into an auction site, with the catalog as the basic reference, in order to be able to objectively assess by anyone that an item offered actually complies with the generally accepted description. And which indeed includes a certain subjective reference price. The increase in auctioneers and vacancies for this also speaks volumes.

Catawiki as an auction site, with shops deliberately reduced by a strange commission model so that all expensive items must be offered through the auctions, probably generates much more cash flow than the shops in old capacity. Because Catawiki is currently taking over a large part of Ebay's collection of collectors in Western Europe through these auctions, I assume that Catawiki is becoming increasingly interesting for Ebay. I thought the story of Homepage was a nice reference. There too were many disaffected volunteers, who were left empty-handed at the sale, while the founders cashed 30 million. I do not rule out that a due diligence team from, for example, Ebay will come by in the foreseeable future, they know their way around the Netherlands by now.

What do I think of this hypothetical possibility? In itself I don't think cashing in with a brilliant idea is bad at all, but if that could possibly involve the backs of volunteers who selflessly put in thousands and thousands of hours under the guise of building a catalog, always free, etc. Then that catalog was there suddenly the auctions started and the shops that were already not functioning well were put to rest in terms of interesting offer, and suddenly serious money was made with heavy commission models.

As it often goes: first bind everyone via free or cheap products / services, then introduce rates and / or raise rates considerably, especially as soon as there is no good alternative. This is normal for commercial initiatives, but for an assumed non-committal cost-neutral collectors / volunteer initiative where making a profit did not really seem important now, this all seems a bit dubious in my opinion.

A good alternative with better commission models I would applaud, and I know I'm not alone.

@ BMG72,

I see one negative post from you after another. I will not continue to comment on that but will quote one more time below what I previously wrote in response to a similar post from you. What continues to amaze me is that you mainly criticize the catalog and the people who are working on it, while you have not yet added anything to the catalog yourself. That is not an obligation but it is quite easy to crack everything down from the sidelines.

From the beginning of Catawiki, the catalog and "tools" for collectors (keeping your collection, wish list, apps, etc.) are free and we have no intention / idea / intention / plan to change that. .

From the start it has also been the case that we want to get our income from the trading side of Catawiki. In the first instance through the shops (which have been there from day 1) and now, because it appears to work better, especially through the auctions. A company, and we always have been, simply needs income, otherwise it cannot survive. And most companies try to optimize their revenue stream, so do we. So it makes sense that we are heavily involved in the auctions, our source of income.

There are plenty of volunteers who are interested in the concept of the catalog and are willing to participate in it. There is no further obligation to do so, but we are very happy with it. It is not possible to set up an extensive catalog in many sections without volunteers.

First of all, I am not primarily critical of the René catalog, but I am not going to repeat everything. I also find it presumptuous that you apparently should not be critical as a collector / user of the site if you have not added anything yourself. Or as in the case of others, you should not complain about prices if you have not made any price suggestions yourself. I find that quite arrogant. I have, just like critical others, offered to keep track of things, but I have never had a reaction to that, only negative, negative answers to everything I indicated. Although I'm not alone in this, far from it.

Is all that an example of being open to constructive criticism, and motivated to optimize your site?

Als ik je berichten teruglees dan zie ik bijzonder weinig constructiefs in jouw kritiek. Het is inderdaad niet beperkt tot kritiek op de catalogus. Je richt je pijlen ook op het bedrijf, de medewerkers, de site, de opzet, de invulling, de procedures, de veilingen, de beheerders, de handelaren, de winkeltjes, zelfs andere verzamelaars en de toekomst...

Je lijkt je op te werken als voorvechter voor de belangen van alle vrijwilligers die Catawiki rijk is, maar je maakt daar zelf geen deel van uit.

Je hebt de misvatting dat jouw denkbeelden gelijk zijn aan die van vele anderen hier. (Een strategie die door veel mensen gebruikt wordt om te proberen meer gewicht aan hun verhaal te geven).

Je hebt het over "kritische anderen" en doet alsof je ook bij zo'n groepje hoort, maar zij hebben hun sporen verdiend op Catawiki. Jij niet.

Je lijkt geen enkele affiniteit te hebben met Catawiki, dus ik begin me af te vragen waarom je hier eigenlijk bent en je nog niet hebt uitgeschreven.
Zit er soms meer achter? Hoor je bij een concurrerende site of bedrijf?
De kans dat ik je hier ooit nog serieus zal nemen lijkt me, gezien de toon van jouw berichten, buitengewoon klein.

Kees

When I read back your posts, I see very little constructive in your criticism. Indeed, it is not limited to criticism of the catalogue. You also aim your arrows at the company, the employees, the site, the set-up, the content, the procedures, the auctions, the administrators, the dealers, the shops, even other collectors and the future...

You seem to be working your way up as a champion for the interests of all the volunteers that Catawiki has to offer, but you are not part of it yourself.

You have the misconception that your views are similar to those of many others here. (A strategy that many people use to try to give more weight to their story).

You talk about "critical others" and pretend you belong to such a group, but they have made their mark on Catawiki. Not you.

You don't seem to have any affinity with Catawiki, so I'm starting to wonder why you're even here and haven't unsubscribed yet.
Is there sometimes more behind it? Do you belong to a competing site or company?
The chance that I will ever take you seriously here again seems extremely small, given the tone of your posts.

Kees

Je lijkt je op te werken als voorvechter voor de belangen van alle vrijwilligers die Catawiki rijk is, maar je maakt daar zelf geen deel van uit.

Zeker niet, ik probeer echter wel aan te geven waar de gemiddelde verzamelaar tegenaan loopt.

Je hebt de misvatting dat jouw denkbeelden gelijk zijn aan die van vele anderen hier. (Een strategie die door veel mensen gebruikt wordt om te proberen meer gewicht aan hun verhaal te geven).

Hier op Catawiki weet ik het niet, maar buiten Catawiki wel degelijk. Strategie? Praat gewoon eens met mensen op een beurs, kan heel verhelderend voor je werken.

Je hebt het over "kritische anderen" en doet alsof je ook bij zo'n groepje hoort, maar zij hebben hun sporen verdiend op Catawiki. Jij niet.

Sinds wanneer moet dat iets uitmaken? Als ik laat zien dat ik weet waarover het gaat dan mag ik daar net zo goed mijn mening over geven. Je opmerking hieromtrent vind ik eveneens aanmatigend en arrogant.

Je lijkt geen enkele affiniteit te hebben met Catawiki, dus ik begin me af te vragen waarom je hier eigenlijk bent en je nog niet hebt uitgeschreven.
Zit er soms meer achter? Hoor je bij een concurrerende site of bedrijf?
De kans dat ik je hier ooit nog serieus zal nemen lijkt me, gezien de toon van jouw berichten, buitengewoon klein.

Ik gebruik de catalogus en de veilingen, niets meer en niets minder. Wil niet zeggen dat ik niet vind dat het beter kan op een aantal punten.

Concurrerende site of bedrijf? Je brengt me bijna op een idee.

You seem to be working your way up as a champion for the interests of all the volunteers that Catawiki has to offer, but you are not part of it yourself.

Certainly not, but I do try to indicate what the average collector encounters.

You have the misconception that your views are similar to those of many others here. (A strategy that many people use to try to give more weight to their story).

Here at Catawiki I don't know, but outside Catawiki I do. Strategy? Just talking to people at a fair can be very enlightening for you.

You talk about "critical others" and pretend you belong to such a group, but they have made their mark on Catawiki. Not you.

Since when should that matter? If I show that I know what it is about then I might as well give my opinion about it. I also find your comment about this presumptuous and arrogant.

You don't seem to have any affinity with Catawiki, so I'm starting to wonder why you're even here and haven't unsubscribed yet.
Is there sometimes more behind it? Do you belong to a competing site or company?
The chance that I will ever take you seriously here again seems extremely small, given the tone of your messages.

I use the catalog and the auctions, nothing more and nothing less. Doesn't mean that I don't think it could be better on a number of points.

Competing site or company? You almost give me an idea.

Calmly reading your messages I have to agree with Kees. It is not bad that you have criticism, but after every criticism you immediately make a judgment about people, procedures or agreements.

This way of criticizing is by no means constructive.

However, I try to indicate what the average collector encounters.

You call the people who give your feedback overbearing and arrogant, while in the same post you claim that you know what the average collector runs into.

They call this my dear BMG arrogant and cowardly because you present yourself as the mouthpiece of a group of collectors and you also try to hide behind this unknown group with your own opinion.

Finally, you don't even have the balls to do this under your own name ...

Interpret it all as you wish Rik and others, I have made my points and I will see how the site develops.

Rikmoren

Tot slot heb je niet eens de ballen om dit onder jouw eigen naam te doen...

Pas op uw woorden. Voordat u het weet staat Ted bij u op de stoep ;):):)

En dan hebben echt de poppen aan het dansen.

Rikmoor

Finally, you don't even have the balls to do this under your own name...

Watch your words. Before you know it Ted will be on your doorstep ;):):)

And then really have the dolls dancing.

Micho, you don't mean Ted by the baseball bat, do you?

Who's showing balls here now? The truth is always harsh.

BMG72, you say: "I have, just like critical others, offered to keep track of things, but I never had a response to that."

I feel like an average collector / user and don't get this one - the whole idea is you can just go do it , right? Despite the fact that I have much less knowledge than others here, I have been able to contribute with time and motivation; when I hear you like this, you know a lot about certain topics - what could be more fun than improving the catalog together with others, even if only every now and then with a few hours ...?

When Catawiki started it was a brilliant and new idea, I think :) If people think that such a site can be set up profitably, I am very curious - I think competing sites would have been mushrooming for a long time shot. As I estimate it was only possible because the people who started Catawiki also have a lot of personal passion, putting them away as commercial money-grubbers does not do them justice. That things could be better - sure; what I read on the forum differs per collection area and users sometimes differ in opinion ...