Comic books/Field: number of pages60 messages

For a few books I filled in the field and filled it in according to the instructions (was also my own wish). You do indeed run into practical problems as expressed by Arco and Arwin.

Although filling in the numbered pages is the easiest, I am going to tack and still argue for counting the pages that are between the two covers.
This is unambiguous and easy to explain, without all kinds of preconditions.

Because a book always consists of folded sheets of paper (even if they have been cut and glued afterwards) it must always be a multiple of 4 pages. (Very rare exceptions aside.) Comics are traditionally printed sheets of 8 or 16 pages, usually bringing the total to 48, 56 or 64.

Practically speaking, this field is the most useful for checking whether a book is complete. Whether, for example, in the case of glued comics, no blank page (with a name written on it) has been removed at the front, or at the back of a page of advertising. Then the number of numbered pages alone is of no use to you.

it must always be a multiple of 4 pages

Very dangerous premise, which I certainly do not share. Especially when you look at how many small press issues have been made on the copier, this statement cannot be defended. The assumption that you then arrive at a certain multiple is also dangerous. The comic book world is a lot bigger than just the albums.

Pockets are printed (especially for larger print runs) on 128 or more pages per sheet.

The only certainty there is when counting the pages is that it must be an even number, the rest is speculation.

I really advocate using the "number of pages" field for the actual number of pages of the issue, and not for any other purpose.

Exactly as the Collectioneur and Boekenmagazijn also indicate. Using this field for other purposes is irrelevant. There should be room for this in the content (Stories in this album).

My condolences to the administrators who are going to have to check this (of course they have all these comics in their collection and will count the pages for a while).

All joking aside: make 2 fields

1) Actual number of pages (for the die-hard importers)
2) Number of numbered pages (for the slightly less die-hard feeders)

Collector wrote:

For a few books I filled in the field and filled it in according to the instructions (was also my own wish). You do indeed run into practical problems as expressed by Arco and Arwin.

Although filling out the numbered pages is the easiest, I'm going to tack and still advocate counting the pages between the two covers.
This is unambiguous and easy to explain, without all kinds of preconditions.

Partly in view of the other well-argued responses, I also think on closer inspection that we can do it better this way. Better half turned than completely lost, shall we say. I have adapted the completion instructions as follows:

The actual number of pages between the covers of the book. So don't count the cover itself, but all other pages do.

Thanks for thinking along!

@Zwendel, I personally think two fields for the number of pages are a bit too much.

Is that with or without the endpapers?

Formally depends on which side of the cover they are on.

So just count. All other options are more error prone and it makes no difference to the value of the info.

Formally depends on which side of the cover they are on.

If they are on the outside of your books, the cover is missing

So just count. All other options are more error prone and it makes no difference to the value of the info.

If it "doesn't matter" then let's stick to the library data and follow the numbering usually at the bottom of the pages.

This usually starts at 3, because the so-called title page and the next page are not numbered, but do count in the book block.

Softcover usually do not have endpapers and then for example Largo Winch would have 48 pages in the soft case and 52 in the harder version, while the story still consists of the same 44 plates with the same number of strips and the same number of pictures.

Softcover usually have no endpapers and then for example Largo Winch would have 48 pages in the soft case and 52 in the harder version, while the story still consists of the same 44 plates with the same number strips and the same number of images.

Is that bad if you know that we will soon also keep track of the number of pages per story?

With this description

The actual number of pages between the covers of the book. So don't count the cover itself, but all other pages do.

seems to me that the endpapers also belong to the pages between the covers.
At least that's how I read it.

Largo Winch in het softe geval 48 pagina's tellen en in de hardere versie 52, terwijl het verhaal nog steeds uit dezelfde 44 platen bestaat met hetzelfde aantal stroken en hetzelfde aantal plaatjes.

ik heb dan ook nooit beweerd dat het aantal bladzijdes een zinvol veld was waar we iets aan hebben. ;-)

Ik zie nu trouwens dat er ook mensen zijn die een veld willen voor de oorspronkelijke verkoopprijs. Schijnt een doorbraak te wezen qua boekidentificatie of zo. En natuurlijk mooi meegenomen dat je kunt zien hoe stom of slim het was dat je het boek niet gelijk gekocht hebt toen het werd uitgebracht.

Mag ik dan gelijk opteren voor een veld Lettertype, waarin we kunnen invullen welke lettertypes er in het betreffende boek allemaal gebruikt worden en in welke puntgrootte. Ook reuze handig om verschillende drukken te kunnen onderscheiden en je weet gelijk of het boek zonder leesbril nog een beetje te doen is. 

Oja, en naast velden voor de dikte en het gewicht (schijnt heel belangrijk te zijn voor de aanschaf van de juiste boekenkast) dan ook graag een veld of het boek een rugtektst heeft en hoe die georienteerd is. Dat ik ook gelijk kan zien of ik hem gewoon rechtop in die boekenkast kan zetten of dat ie ondersteboven moet. En dan ook graag welke kleur de rug is. Want ze kunnen dan wel passen, maar je weet natuurlijk nog steeds niet of het estetisch wel verantwoord is om bepaalde boeken naast elkaar te zetten Qua palet enzo, het oog wil tenslotte ook wat.

En dan om het af te maken (je begrijpt niet hoe we het al die tijd zonder hebben kunnen doen) ook een veld waar je op een schaal van 1 tot 10 kunt aangeven hoe lastig het is om de prijssticker zonder schade los te krijgen.

Maar dat laatste alleen ls het niet teveel gevraagd is natuurlijk.

Largo Winch count 48 pages in the soft case and 52 in the harder version, while the story still consists of the same 44 plates with the same number of strips and the same number of pictures.

I have therefore never claimed that the number of pages was a meaningful field that is useful to us. ;-)

By the way, I now see that there are also people who want a field for the original sales price. Seems to be a breakthrough in book identification or something. And of course a nice bonus that you can see how stupid or smart it was that you didn't buy the book right when it was released.

Can I immediately opt for a Font field, in which we can enter which fonts are used in the book in question and in what point size. Also very handy to be able to distinguish different printings and you immediately know whether the book is still a bit manageable without reading glasses.

Oh yes, and in addition to fields for the thickness and weight (seems to be very important for the purchase of the right bookcase) also a field whether the book has a back text and how it is oriented. That I can also immediately see whether I can just put it upright in that bookcase or whether it has to be upside down. And then also what color the back is. Because they may fit, but of course you still don't know whether it is aesthetically responsible to put certain books next to each other In terms of palette and stuff, after all, the eye also wants something.

And then to top it off (you don't understand how we managed without it all this time) also a field where you can indicate on a scale of 1 to 10 how difficult it is to remove the price sticker without damage.

But the latter only if it's not too much to ask, of course.

Oh yes, and next to the thickness and weight fields

To be honest, I can imagine that such a field can be useful for automatically calculating shipping costs.

Good idea Pegag.

@Zwendel, I personally think two fields for the number of pages are too much of a good thing

It is now being hammered through and I must admit that the proposal of 2 fields was intended to be slightly ironic ;-) I can follow Pegag there.

By the way, I now see that there are also people who want a field for the original sales price. Seems to be a breakthrough in book identification or something. And of course a nice bonus that you can see how stupid or clever it was that you didn't buy the book when it was released.

As far as 'original sales price' is concerned: that is an objective fact (especially given the fixed Dutch book price that I recently learned with amazement). Z van Zwendel between 2.95 and 3.3 Euro, that is a 'spread' of 10% that we can only dream of at sales prices (just look at Z van Zwendel offers).

And again the advantage of a separate field is that as an administrator you do not have to adjust the prices of 'new objects' every year (or that much too high new prices will be stuck on objects for eternity).

To be honest, I can imagine that such a field can be useful for automatically calculating shipping costs.

Good idea Pegag.

Yes, I shine as if I came up with it myself, but this (weight) has indeed been requested elsewhere with dry eyes in connection with the shipment.

What incredible nonsense. I am very curious if the HH sellers are still as enthusiastic as the first negative feedback is received because the buyer had to pay a penalty postage due to incorrect postage. I am a little less curious who will be blamed.

I think you are going off-topic in terms of the selling price (this topic is about the number of pages and I think that is now clear). I would like to respond to @pegag, but rather there (and rather a serious email ;-).

Greetings,

Tom

I am very curious whether the HH sellers are still as enthusiastic as the first negative feedback is received because the buyer had to pay a penalty postage due to incorrect postage.

If you send things out the door without weighing it up first, you as a seller are obviously doing stupid yourself.
For example, packaging also counts.
It could never be more than an indication of the shipping costs, that's certainly true.

I personally do not really care whether such a field will be added or not, but it seems useful for certain sections.

I agree with Arwin that this can certainly be useful to calculate an indication for the shipping costs. If we can realize that sellers can immediately let their customers pay online (iDEAL, Paypal etc.) then that will certainly be important.

And then again undopic: the number of pages per issue was quickly arranged. Is that also that simple for the number of plates per story?

And is that possible for books as well as for comics? Where it would be very useful for stories in books if there were also a field for the year of 1st publication.

Marco has checked whether a number of records field per story can be done quickly. That turns out to be a bit more complex than expected because it is at story level and because the number of fields is still limited, something we encountered before with DVDs. Is still being arrested, but not immediately. Also give me the time to discuss with the administrators exactly how this field should be filled in.

Then I wonder which planet you come from

From the planet 'Belgium', found in Alpha Centauri. We were driven there by a certain Willem I ;-)

And I was told at the time (in this forum) that (new) comics fall under that rule and that therefore no discounts are allowed.

I understand the same thing as Scam.

But hey .. I am from Brabant and that borders on Alpha Centauri (:-)

many comics fall under the magazine system and do not have a fixed, but recommended price

Those are very few comics, you know. Basically just the comics that look like magazines (with staples and stuff). All comics with an ISBN fall under the VVP in any case.

@ BigBadWolf,
At the description:

The actual number of pages between the covers of the book. So don't count the cover itself, but all other pages do.

does not talk about a book block.
I think you get that a little bit.
If it is intended otherwise, it should actually say something like "Don't count cover and endpapers" instead of " all other pages do "

Here in West Friesland, new comic albums also fall under the fixed book price.
Which planet are you from actually?

Who has an exact scale at home?

A little professional seller.
One who can also indicate in his store how heavy his packaging is, and thus automatically calculate the shipping costs for a package by Catawiki.

How long would it take for the first user to add an album as a new variant because his copy is 3 grams heavier?

;-P

Incidentally, I am surprised that there is no weight field for Coins. I don't know much about it, but isn't that important, especially with precious metals?