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April 03, 2024 09:37
In the FR interface there is confusion with the themes

Sculpture (NL: Sculpture)
Sculptures (NL: Sculptures)

Culture (NL: Culture)
Cultures (NL: Crops)

In addition, some 'duplications' emerged as a result of the translation:
Minéraux (NL: Quarries and Minerals)
Gymnastique (NL: Gymnastics and Gymnastics)
Coiffures (NL: Hairstyles and Headwear)
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April 03, 2024 10:00
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It will be difficult to find the right (unique) translations for this.
Not just in French.
For example, Gewassen is now translated into German as Getreide, but that seems too restrictive to me.

Hopefully there are people who can make good suggestions here.
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For the German translation it is Kulturen. Only then you get confused with Kultur (culture). Maybe, Pflanzenbaulichen Erzeugnisse (vegetable products)?. Or Kulturen (Landwirtschaft).
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I don't think it would be a bad solution to work with a small addition between square brackets in cases like this.
Then we get:
NL = Washed
EN = Crops
FR = Cultures [agriculture]
DE = Cultures [Landwirtschaft]
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April 03, 2024 10:33
A good solution Collectioneur .
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For Sculpture and Sculptures I do have to ask the question: What is the difference between those 2 themes?
I see all kinds of images and sculptors in Postage Stamps for both themes.
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April 03, 2024 11:05
This gives a little more information Collectioneur

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastiek_(sculpture)

Sculpture is a slightly broader concept. A collective noun.

Personally, I don't find it a problem to classify sculptures as sculpture.
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I would like to hear any objections to merging Sculpture and Sculptures .

Then it would be like this:
NL = Sculpture
EN = Sculpture
FR = Sculpture
DE = Bildhauerkunst

With name variations: Sculptures, Bildhauerei, Skulptur
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April 03, 2024 11:42
Maybe with the extra name variation Collectioneur Plastic?.
NL = Plastic
EN = Plastic doctor
FR = Arts plastiques
DE = Plastic
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Then I would choose: Plastic, Plastique, Plastik
Name variations do not need to be entered per language.

But first hear what Raoul62 and az60 think of the possible merger.
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April 03, 2024 12:11
For 'Crops' you could use Récoltes instead of Cultures.

You could merge sculpture and sculpture. But preferably at night after 12 o'clock. Then you disturb fewer users.

Minerals and Minerals are also so close to each other that no distinction is made in French... Minerais comes closer to Minerals, but may not cover the whole spectrum.

I think you could also combine gymnastics and gymnastics.
Couvre chef seems plausible to me as headgear. Must be confirmed by a native French speaker. Or contradicted with the necessary comments (I can already feel it coming :)).
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April 03, 2024 12:13
I know this will add a little extra fire to Collectioneur, but Woodcarving also falls under Sculpture .

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beeldhouwer
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April 03, 2024 12:28
But preferably at night after 12 o'clock. Then you disturb fewer users.
Collectioneur can you confirm that. I previously understood that I would rather not do this at night because of other processes that are already running.

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You can now change "Sculpture" to "Plastic" with impunity. By the way, "Plastic" means gigantic pollution due to confusion with "plastic" if we do not include (sculpture) art.

The problem with Gymnastics and Gymnastics also occurs in English:
Gymnastics
I also suggest merging these.

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Helv Raoul62
There are indeed always processes running at night, but there may always be some disruption. Shall I take care of this merger?
Then it becomes like this:
NL = Sculpture
EN = Sculpture
FR = Sculpture
DE = Bildhauerkunst

With Name Variations (so no aliases): Sculptures, Bildhauerei, Skulptur.
Later, when we have thought carefully about other Name Variations, we can always add them.

Gymnastics and gymnastics merge into:
NL = Gymnastics
EN = Gymnastics
FR = Gymnastics
DE = Gymnast
With Name Variation: Gymnastics
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A message from another post, translation from a German site,
Gymnastics is one of the oldest Olympic sports and is one of four that has been represented at all Olympic Games. The sport consists of three disciplines: gymnastics (also called artistic gymnastics, or apparatus gymnastics), rhythmic gymnastics and trampoline gymnastics
Merging Gymnastics and Gymnastics does not seem to be a problem to me.
You can now change "Sculpture" to "Plastic" with impunity. By the way, "Plastic" means gigantic pollution due to confusion with "plastic" if we do not include (sculpture) art.

I don't understand Helv?. This is a name variation in sculpture.
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April 03, 2024 13:45
Charles1971 sorry I missed that it was a name variation.
Collectioneur agree. With the first one, Plastiek can be added as a name variation, as you suggested earlier.
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I think the subject of sculpture and sculptures is a bit more complicated. There is also the theme of statues. In addition, you will also find the theme of sculpture (duplicate) among the stamps. Definitions are missing.
This is not my knowledge, so please correct me. I see sculpture as overarching. All sculptures fit in with this, and so do all statues. But also well-known sculptors such as Rodin, people who are sculpting on the stamp, sculptors' tools, such as a hammer and chisel, and so on, a real connoisseur will be able to add something to it.
Statues also seem like sculptures to me. You could draw a line by saying that statues are large and outside. But yes, what is big and what is small. And what is outside can also be inside. So that will be difficult.
The differences must be clearly defined. Sculpture should be the umbrella of everything. In my opinion, for all sculptures and statues, the sculpture motif can be added in the Theme / motif field. In my opinion, statues are also sculptures. But I would be careful with merging. Sculptures already has 97 pages, statues 60 pages and sculpture 40 pages. This is already far too much to do anything meaningful with, such as searching, finding, viewing, dividing, etc. I would rather look for options to reduce the number of pages. But then again, I'm not an expert in this area, so I don't see any opportunities to pick it up anytime soon.
ps Statues can of course also be made of metal, such as bronze. This is probably cast and not carved and is therefore not a sculpture or sculpture.
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Helv Raoul62 Charles1971
The merger into Sculpture is complete with 7371 items.


With the Name Variations: Sculptures, Bildhauerei, Skulptur, Plastiek, Plastique, Plastik
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April 03, 2024 14:26
Fine, no more near-duplication in French for Sculpture.
Culture and Cultures is now also clearer.

'Put the cap on', and to the 3 duplicates:

Minéraux (NL: Quarries and Minerals)
Gymnastique (NL: Gymnastics and Gymnastics)
Coiffures (NL: Hairstyles and Headwear)

If a French-speaking user can confirm that 'Minerais ' could be used for 'Minings', and 'Couvre-chefs' for 'Headgear' (I'm not completely sure about that... feels weird) we're done with that too . Otherwise not.
In any case, coiffures as a translation for headgear does not seem correct to me, or you have to be very open-minded.

If everyone agrees that Gymnastics and Gymnastics are merged, that is also (doubly) one problem less.


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Sculpture (duplicate) was only visible during the merging process.
I think statues can be described and translated well. I think it can remain a separate theme.
There are quite a few stamps under Sculpture, which can also be linked to (or only to) Statues.
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More issues with Themes in French:
Écrivains (= Men of Letters & Writers)
Pompes (= Mills & Pumps)
Soin (care) & Soins (nursing)


Also a problem in German:
Medizin (= Medicines & Medical science)


The Theme "International Year of Biodiversity" was untranslated and has now been adapted. The question is whether it should be preserved because it contains only 1 stamp.
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Statues can of course also be made of metal, such as bronze. This is probably cast and not carved and is therefore not a sculpture or sculpture.
Cast bronze statues are also referred to as sculpture. They even seem to often be classified as sculptures. The actual use has probably transcended the origin.
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From the German Wiki Collectioneur ,

A Statue or a Standing Picture is one in the rule of a picture frame made of free-standing sculpture or plastic , which represents a person , a large figure or a picture.

A statue is a free-standing sculpture or sculpture, usually made by a sculptor, that depicts a person, a divine figure or an animal.

I think it also fits well with Sculpture.
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The merger of Gymnastics with Gymnastics has been completed with 1838 items.


With the Name Variant: Gymnastics
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The Theme "International Year of Biodiversity" was added by Postmaster just over a year ago. Then came the cancellation storm and quite a few themes disappeared. Users now often neglect to complete the theme properly (because there is a chance that their input will be deleted again). Shame.
Meanwhile, this theme is the fastest growing theme (in number on LD) of them all :)
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