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October 11, 2010 17:11

I am in favor of including 'illegal' items as far as they are 'antique'. How old they must be depends from section to section. It does not seem advisable to include illegal stamps (or other items) that have been published in the last 10 years or so.

Furthermore, it is indeed a legal matter and if they are in the catalog they can in principle also be sold and then it is distributed.

So maybe block sales of recent 'illegal' items through Catawiki?

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October 11, 2010 18:43

It seems to me that possession is not directly punishable,

But what to do with bootlegs (so-called white LPs DVDs CDs) there are also a few on the site.

Are they still offered via e bay and marketplace and how far should you go?

The sale of an item (photo copy of a girth cover, including girth) also punishable?

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October 11, 2010 19:15

I am in favor of including 'illegal' items as far as they are 'antique'. How old they must be depends from section to section. It does not seem advisable to include illegal stamps (or other items) that have been published in the last 10 years or so

This makes little difference to the right to use a logo. You may not include an illegal Cartier watch even after 10 years.

But what to do with bootlegs (so-called white LPs DVDs CDs) there are also a few on the site.

I think the 'risk' you run is mainly related to the strength of the opposing team. The real 'brands' have their affairs in order and will intervene. It also seems less risky with bootlegs. Depicting doesn't even seem like such a problem.

Apparently opinions differ within the WADP as well.

No, opinions do not differ. At the time I was indirectly involved in this case as webmaster of the ASCAT and IFSDA. A discussion has taken place within the WADP and a unanimous position has been taken that all parties act on the basis of compelling arguments.

The UPU is not taking half measures in this area. For example, the UPU is kept informed exactly by suppliers of perforation machines and advanced printing machines who are interested. The interests of the postal service, logo owners and countries that are discredited by inappropriate subjects are therefore great.

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October 11, 2010 19:32

Is it not an option to include fake stamps by means of a photo of the stamp through which with thick red letters is FALSE not an option?

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October 11, 2010 20:23

This makes little difference to the right to use a logo. You may not include an illegal Cartier watch even after 10 years.

Maybe after 20-30 years, who knows? The model may then no longer be made / sold and is therefore no longer a problem for the manufacturer. I imagine that a copy of a 1946 Cartier (mint) would bring in a lot of money now (no idea if Cartier existed then).

I am not going to speak out about the stamps (I know nothing about that) but with comics, for example, the illegal (and pornography) Sus en Wissen of the years are quietly traded openly and naked. Those have simply become collector's items.

Of course if someone is marketing illegal versions now, you shouldn't include them. But if they become collector's items in 2030, of course they will.

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