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January 31, 2015 17:36
Great proposal. A merchant hotline about feedback is welcome. Voted with pleasure. The other proposal by eric-t also sounds logical "No assessment if order is canceled".
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January 31, 2015 18:23

Would you please explain to me what the difference is between a buyer who ultimately cancels an order (or never responds again) and a shop that cancels an order because he cannot / does not want to deliver?

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January 31, 2015 18:34
The second is a consequence of the first. Currently, a buyer cannot cancel an order himself.
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January 31, 2015 19:21

Sorry, but that's not correct. A shop can just as well cancel incorrectly, and then the buyer must be able to give a negative feedback.

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January 31, 2015 19:50
Technically, a buyer cannot cancel on the site. He must ask the seller or by not responding. You do have a point that sellers can cancel because something is no longer available and then feedback is indeed still logical. Or because they don't want to sell because of bad experience in the past. Blocking a buyer like ebay is not possible here. So yes, feedback in case of cancellation should be possible if there is a hotline as suggested by elastokees. Incidentally, I have not had a negative experience with feedback received, which is usually even better than expected. Motivating to continue to take good care of quality and packaging, as a score of (close to) 100% is extra vulnerable if someone were to be too strict. An additional reporting point would make the marketplace and the auction even more attractive for sellers.
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January 31, 2015 20:10

No payment = no transaction = no feedback it should be me.

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February 01, 2015 21:12

A system has been chosen that if a buyer cancels something, the seller has to change the order status and that the buyer still has the opportunity to provide feedback. That is a conscious choice of the Catawiki management, as well as the fact that only the buyer can give feedback and that there is no obligation to provide feedback.

The feedback system is intended to ensure the quality of Among other things, to improve the sellers and is therefore definitely useful. The use of the system is not that bad, but for the occasional occasion that it does cause problems, a regulation or a reporting point must be established to prevent misuse of the system. The system is not finished now and without some form of control or arbitration the frustrations keep popping up on the forum.

The solution seems simple, but it is up to Catawiki to do that.

On the advice of Arco, an item has been added to the To-Do list and now we hope that the tuners will come.

http://www.catawiki.nl/feedback or To-Do-list

NL - Target audience Sellers

There must be a reporting point that can independently hear all parties involved. about deliveries and feedback and also make a binding statement

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February 02, 2015 03:54

@ Arco; Abuse is "exploited" by the buyer, the seller has to dance to the tune of the buyer. Said my customer. I got this on my plate.

2. I ordered a strip but did not receive it. The seller says he sent the strip and I should contact the post. Is the seller right? Question; where is this going? Send everything by registered mail? You will see the customers this way afhajen88

In your case, however, it concerned one strip of barely 8.50 EUR. I can just sell such a sling with more insured shipping. The seller appears to be responsible for the delivery. In case of problems with the delivery, he may not forward you to the post. The seller must contact the post himself and prove that the delivery has actually taken place. If he cannot provide this proof, he must either send you an identical good or refund you. Such matters only work with registered mail. On the other hand, can he pay a compensation of the same amount?

This obliges you to do each shipment per signed disk, because only then can you prove a shipment. Who is v-c-prepared to insure a strip of 8.50EUR? No one. So, you have to get involved as a salesman unless you send by registered mail.

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February 02, 2015 04:23

Isn't that true for every distance purchase, for all sellers who are active, on all websites? And yet that way of selling is flourishing, so it really will not be the case that buyers are roughly unreliable. Rotten medlars are everywhere and you have to factor in as a business risk. Take three deep breaths and go again with that banana.

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February 02, 2015 05:02

@Jodieke: you have 2 options:

1. Indeed, everything will be sent traceable / registered and / or insured (I do, choice (by me) depending on the value sold) - I always charge Euro 6.95 (within NL).

2. taking risks and paying costs yourself. Customers who complain are not rotten medlars; but people with damage that you as a seller have to compensate (= as a result of your choice for 1 or 2)

I know that this is simplistic but this is the bottom line. If your sales values are low (example euro 8.50 sales value) this is a difficult dilemma.

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February 02, 2015 10:44

By rotten medlars I of course mean the buyers who claim that something has not arrived, while it has arrived . There are always a number of them every year. Nothing you can do about it. In addition, it is true that the sender must contact the mail, never the addressee.

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  • February 02, 2015 14:59
February 02, 2015 14:59

@Arco: the distinction between rotten medlars and customers who rightly complain can (almost never) be made. So it remains a choice to really put the customer first and consciously make the choice that the glass is half full.

hence: make a choice between 1 and 2.

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February 02, 2015 15:29

I agree. The distinction can only be recognized by the way in which someone reacts. By using language and a certain form of certainty you often know better, but there is simply nothing that can be done about it and Jodieke will simply have to accept that.

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February 02, 2015 16:42

According to the Catawiki regulations, the seller is responsible for the transport and if the Post fails to do so, he must resolve this.

When selling through the Catawiki auctions, the payment is made to Catawiki and after a period (approx. 14 days) which is intended to solve any problems, Catawiki will pay the seller. Catawiki therefore urgently requires shipping by registered mail. Because it often involves higher amounts, these additional costs are not that important. In my opinion, insured shipping also depends on the sales amount.

I think that the mass of the sales of shops are about small amounts and such a system would have a very slowing down on the turnover.

The newspaper stated that there are approximately 16 million euros per year in internet inquiries.

In a population of 16 million, this is actually negligible. It usually concerns electronics offered very cheaply. Bargains often have an odor and there will always be some that will take advantage of something, indeed a business risk.

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February 02, 2015 17:00

The mail's sole contracting party is the sender; they have no relationship with the addressee. So if you've read something else elsewhere, it can't be right. Even complaining to the mail cannot be done by the addressee.

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February 02, 2015 18:51

@Arco, that's not entirely true. Bought something last month with too little postage on it, who did PostNL come to? For me the buyer, so the addressee and not the seller / sender, so they also come to the buyer in some cases. And if it happens to me several times that an item "supposedly has not arrived", I will refund the amount. But somewhere in the back of your mind the idea of: the buyer has a free item and his money back !!!

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February 02, 2015 18:56

Yes, that can leave you with a bad taste in your mouth. By the way, you know that you don't have to pay those requests (because that's what they are) to pay for penalty postage? I never pay them.

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February 02, 2015 19:24

@Arco, idd a really bad taste. I did not know that yet, then I will do it.

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Gentlemen, we keep whining about "bad taste"; those are all gut feeling feelings. Maybe where, maybe not. You can't do anything with it (except getting frustrated about it).

And Arco: also language, way of responding and certainty say nothing, because you do not know the person and therefore have no reference framework about this person's "normal behavior".

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February 02, 2015 20:06

Could be, but soon enough I will see what is credible, although it won't be 100 percent. And I can live with it.

Shall we put a lock on it? Or does anyone have any Irish news to report?

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February 02, 2015 21:46

Lock on

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