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February 27, 2024 20:52
Lyonesse Done and adjusted. Added pseudonyms to Ruseler. Can't be seen, the list was full
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Can any of you please add and merge the Pseudonyms, Jackie Lee and Jay Dee (both listed at LD) to the Artists, Composers and Lyricists at Earl Nelson.
He has two more Pseudonyms, Chip Nelson and Earl Cosby would like to add them as well.
Please note, Jackie Lee is also still listed at LD, but this is the Singer, Jacqueline Flood with the Pseudonyms, Jackie Lee and Emma Rede, please also adjust this to administrator options.
Here's a photo of Earl Nelson.

And here is a photo of Jacqueline Flood.
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Jilles
Would you like to pass on a few more pseudonyms for Hendricus Ruseler?
Allegro Milano
Electro Sound Band
Galactic Sounds Unlimited
The Galaxy Sound Orchestra
The Spheric Sounds
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Jilles
Then I would say they work :-)
I think he has 18 pseudonyms.
Makes a lot of Synthesizer music.
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Lyonesse I'm having a good time with Hendricus Ruseler
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I completely understand that Jilles , but now it is almost purely the work of the administrators: finding a suitable image and posting it.
The search can take quite some time. Installing takes a few seconds and can only be done by an administrator.
As a result, there are some empty places with beautiful backgrounds.
I don't think the background pages are reviewed quickly either. The emphasis is on the items and their content.
When applying an image, it does not have to be commented on, but it is possible. Not every image is suitable (or appropriate).

It was just an idea. And ideas usually get stuck in that phase. So don't panic :)
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Raoul62 No, I'd rather not. That's wrong. it's fine the way it is now. Adding images as an administrator is fun, but checking whether an item has been completed correctly is a higher administrator priority (and time is limited)
Perhaps LD can fill the space with an image by default with a large question mark, with the text "Send a recognizable logo via administrators."?
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If I find something and it can be neatly stored somewhere at LD anywhere, I will report it here,
Keep doing it, my thought. It is always an opportunity that can be taken advantage of. It doesn't help, it doesn't hurt either.
And that applies to every section, not just Music.
Until now, the cooperation with the administrators has always been excellent
And it will remain that way. However, administrators are also allowed to have their own opinions. They are also people (users) who, in addition to management, are also collectors. The forum is there to express those opinions (sometimes sighs).
Whether or not anything is done with it is another matter. An effort has already been made, and isn't that alone commendable?

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What a picture or photo can lead to a nice discussion.
I was actually looking for another rights organization, namely ML stands for, Mechanlizenz is one from Switzerland.
During my research I came across the GEMA Label.
And this picture is now neatly entered at GEMA by Collectioneur
If I find something and it can be neatly stored somewhere at LD, I will report it here, what they ultimately do with it, others can decide, no more and no less.
But until now the cooperation with the administrators has always been excellent.
Otherwise it would have stopped long ago.
Can also do something else, there are still thousands of coins waiting that I still have to catalogue, found with a detector over the years.
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It is always better to fill (utilize) an empty space if there is benefit to be gained from it.
You attract attention with a collectible image. Now that attention is there when your collection area gets GEMA on your screen (click through the detail of an item). You completely get into the atmosphere and still get the feeling that you have arrived in a gathering area.
If the entry in the Music section has already been added to an item almost 4,500 times, then I think it is useful and interesting enough, right?



Whether it is the newest, the oldest or an intermediate logo does not matter much. An image that is recognizable and can be linked to that collection area. A logo is often best (or a flag for a collection area of a country).
You can always include a historical overview of successive logos in the background page itself.
Adding an image for a staging area is negligible in terms of work. You can do it in just a few seconds. Afterwards it offers functional benefits.
The eyes are drawn to the statement 'Do you know much about this collection area? Add background info'. Inviting. For everyone. An administrator without time doesn't have to do it. A user who is not an administrator can also do that. It may not be important to one person, but even more so to another.

Perhaps LD can fill the space with an image by default with a large question mark, with the text "Send a recognizable logo via administrators."?
In my opinion, background in the collection areas is still not being used optimally enough. There are many good background pages for collection areas where the 'attention grabber' is unfortunately missing. Often the message that someone put time into is lost.
You are welcome to have a different opinion, this is just mine.
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I don't know if that logo has changed over time

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Actually, my main objection was that I didn't recognize the logo at all. After research it appears that this logo can only be found on recent sound posters.


I know quite a few collectors, but I have never spoken to one who searches on BIEM.

I completely agree. So a logo will not be viewed?

Rights organizations can be important for estimating the age of an item, but they are not yet used or used insufficiently. It is an idea to at least record in a background page during which period a specific rights organization was/is active. Only, do we have time for that?
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That's right, but I responded to vertigo who did not immediately indicate the usefulness of the rights organizations and I agree with him!
I wouldn't worry at all whether such a logo would be added
I don't know if that logo has changed over time, but if it's like record labels then it's a useless thing
The photo of the artist/band is fine, although Mick and Paul don't look like they did when I was younger!
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Dick52 The discussion is about adding an image to the relevant organization, not about mentioning the rights organization with an item. That's another story
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vertigo Lyonesse Collectioneur Jummekestripspeldjes

Maybe it seems a bit catty, but I still have not discovered the added value of the rights organizations,
It is fun every now and then, but just like the date on a label, it is a fixed fact and whether it is a reprint from 10 years later and the label is completely different, the year of release and the rights organization remain the same
Have no problem with it being mentioned!
I know quite a few collectors, but I have never spoken to one who searches on BIEM.
I'm thinking of other things that are nailed down, such as lumping WDR and DDR together!
Personally, I think there are things that should have more priority.
And every now and then we are all short-sighted.


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vertigo The level is dropping by the minute. Unworthy of an administrator!
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But fortunately you are not the only one in charge, there are also other administrators here at LD.

Lyonesse
That's funny, I'm glad there are other users too ;-)
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There is much more knowledge than you can find on the internet.

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To date, nothing has emerged of this. Not an underestimation, but an estimate.


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The administrators and users do not know more about this subject than they can find on the internet.
I think you underestimate the users. There is much more knowledge than you can find on the internet.
And anything that can persuade people to share that knowledge is, in my opinion, valuable for the catalogue.
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vertigo
How did I imagine you would respond to this?
Do you even see the point in anything?
I think if it were up to you, we at LD would still be where we were 5 years ago.
But fortunately you are not the only one in charge, there are also other administrators here at LD.
I actually didn't want to respond to such things from you anymore, but it tickled my fingers to write anyway.
And you were not asked by me to change this at all.

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GEMA has appeared at Last Dodo 4500 times and this is the official logo of GEMA
And it's just like Tammo writes, it brightens up the Catalogue.
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Many people will not know what a rights organization is

Collectioneur
Fortunately, we have the internet for that. The administrators and users do not know more about this subject than they can find on the internet. And copying internet pages is not allowed.

That adds more color and provides visual information.

And sometimes also more unnecessary nonsense, as in this case.
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The rights organization is a statement on the label, which is copied on a one-to-one basis. No further information is necessary.

That seems pretty short-sighted to me.
Many people will not know what a rights organization is and a background page is a very suitable tool for this.
We would also like administrators to place such images in as many collection areas as possible. That adds more color and provides visual information.
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I suspect it is an image to add to the staging area via the admin module.

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I already understood that. My point is that this addition is useless. There will probably never be a background page, because there is no need for it.
The rights organization is a statement on the label, which is copied on a one-to-one basis. No further information is necessary.
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vertigo
I suspect it is an image to add to the staging area via the admin module. This draws attention to a possible background page when a user requests the collection area.
Now there is nothing.


With such an image (which only administrators of that section can add) you draw the user to the 'Background' section. Inviting to read it, or create it if non-existent.

e.g.:





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The usefulness of Gema's image escapes me. It also doesn't look like what the labels say, so why? I would rather see a proper background page.
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Perfect Jilles, also those three different photos
Have another one for you.
For the Artists, Composers, Lyricists and Producers, Helen Shepherd is her birth name, Helena Schaap, you can change this.
Here's a photo of her.

And you can post this photo to the rights organization GEMA.
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