Strips/Jommeke herdrukken of eerste druk

Still, it is better to explain this in a background page and not with a selection of 17 albums. That pollutes the list view enormously.

That pollutes the list view enormously.

I don't quite get that, isn't that just a limited number of lines?

not on a selection of 17 albums.

So applying to all 81 albums is also an option?

With every S & amp; For example, your album says:

Info backcover: Suske en Wiske.
• Latest album title: 9 Lambiorix
• The bull trainer 10 (in preparation).

Info backcover: The Snoek family.
• Last album title: 6 Pike Attack (Standard releases - 1st series).

That doesn't seem like pollution to me, but useful information. If you put it somewhere far away, people can make mistakes more quickly.

But you can take everything away from me, I didn't put it there. But it does not seem superfluous information to me. With the first 40 albums you have to pay attention because of the many reprints. At every fair, albums are offered as first edition, which are not. And that is by connoisseurs who have their noses between the books every day. If the catalog is for everyone, an easy to check condition does not seem superfluous to me.

Creating an overview page with all the characteristics of each album seems unclear to me. The explanations for all albums together would become quite long. In my opinion you just clearly state which characteristics the album must meet at the first edition.

I made some adjustments at album 12 to show how long the list would become if you wanted to put everything together. If this is contamination, it will be erased. Otherwise I would like to make further adjustments. In all reprints, therefore, there are albums that only make a difference in one detail from the first edition. For example an identical print with only the album number added. Very small in a corner, but not a first edition. Identical album, but with glossy cover, no first edition, ...

Rik was ook al op die manier bezig, zie ik hier.

Rik was already working that way, I see here.

I don't quite get that, isn't that just a limited number of lines?

It's about the nature of the info, not the number of lines.

If the information is only relevant for a specific item from a range, add this to details. This is, for example, about the last album that is on a back cover like Sus en Wis. The purpose of the details field is to help identify the specific album.

If the information is generic and therefore applies to a whole series, place it with background information.

In that sense, all information about the recognition of a first edition of Jommeke, including mine from 2015, belongs on the background page.

The purpose of the details field is to help identify the specific album.

If the information is generic and therefore applies to a whole series, place it with background information.

I understand that, but there is not one line for the whole sequence. Some of the rules appear on certain albums, but not all.

Now, that info doesn't bother me there. I think we're clear. But if it doesn't belong, it will disappear.

Ik heb bij album 12 wat aanpassingen gedaan

Rik was ook al op die manier bezig, zie ik hier.

Nu verwijs je ineens naar de Kapoentjes uitgaven, terwijl we het over Het Volk uitgaven - 1e reeks - ongekleurd hadden...

Edit: ik moet toegeven dat ik het onderscheid tussen de twee reeksen niet echt snap. De Kapoentjes werden van 1959-1978 uitgegeven, de 1e reeks van 1973-1978. In die overlappende periode hebben beide reeksen hetzelfde ontwerp achterkant (titellijst in zeshoek) en een splitsing op nummer kan ik ook niet ontdekken. Wie legt het me uit?

I made some adjustments to album 12

Rik was already working that way, I see here.

Now you suddenly refer to the Kapoentjes editions , while we were talking about Het Volk editions - 1st series - uncoloured ...

Edit: I have to admit I don't really get the distinction between the two series. The Kapoentjes were issued from 1959-1978, the 1st series from 1973-1978. In that overlapping period, both series have the same design on the back (title list in hexagon) and I cannot detect a division by number. Who explains it to me?

Now you suddenly refer to the Kapoentjes editions , while we are talking about Het Volk editions - 1st series - uncolored had ...

No, I was talking about all numbers below 81.

Dit is het soort informatie dat we op een achtergrondpagina moeten hebben:

http://users.skynet.be/ictzone/jommeke/allerlei/druk1.htm

This is the kind of information we should have on a background page:

http://users.skynet.be/ictzone/jommeke/allerlei/druk1.htm

at 5350829 it says: On the title page Flip looks at being Jommeke shoulder to the right!

That is also a problem, Flip clearly looks to the left, for us that is to the right.

Think of changing it to Flip looks at Jommeke or looks away from Jommeke

A second edition with number addition "d". How about that?

That's not right anyway ... (;-)

Is there an expert who objectively refers to Jommeke in the series Kapoentjes expenses can go and have a look?
Clarity in the numbering (first numbers) would be nice. But especially in the print designation, it is amazing how much first editions are not available.
Instinctively I feel some manipulation because of the value of especially the first editions.

Nu heb ik ontdekt dat een zekere Coopertje deze teksten ook al heeft bijgevoegd=

Albums met enkel zwarte druk zijn latere drukken. Pas vanaf album 81 is de uitgeverij met zwarte inkt beginnen uitgeven. ( een drukkerij drukt met zwarte inkt, maar een uitgeverij geeft niet uit met zwarte inkt)

onder andere  bij  6099995 de vroijke bende,

Maar dan is 23714 ook geen eerste druk en zou er geen eerste" druk zijn.

Nog niemand gevonden om Jommeke eens op zijn poten te zetten ;-)

Now I have discovered that a certain Coopertje has already added these texts=

Albums with only black printing are later printings. Only from album 81 did the publisher start publishing with black ink. (a printing company prints with black ink, but a publishing house does not publish with black ink)

among others at 6099995 the cheerful gang,

But then 23714 is also not a first edition and there would be no first" edition.

Haven't found anyone yet to put Jommeke on his feet ;-)

@ een zekere Lordernie

Zoals JozefK reeds aanhaalt begrijp ik niet wat er onduidelijk is dat er pas vanaf nr 81 eerste drukken in zwarte druk uitgegeven/gedrukt worden. Beetje flauw ook dat je struikelt over een woordkeuze, men moet eerst albums drukken vooraleer men ze kan uitgeven toch?

Betreft nr 66 de vrolijke bende; heeft tevens een oranje steunkleur en is niet hetzelfde als 'enkel' zwarte druk, dit geld eveneens voor nr 44 de Jommekesclub, welke ook zwarte druk met steunkleur heeft. Voor nr 66 zijn er inderdaad varianten met of zonder titelblad en met of zonder blanco schutblad voor en/of achteraan. Welke hier de echte eerste uitgave is en of er meerdere zijn spreek ik me niet over uit..

Zoals boekenmagazijn reeds aanhaalt..
http://users.skynet.be/ictzone/jommeke/allerlei/druk1.htm
Betere omschijving is momenteel niet voorhanden.

@ a certain Lordernie

As JozefK already quotes, I do not understand what is unclear that only from no. 81 first editions are published/printed in black print. It's also a bit silly that you stumble over a choice of words, you have to print albums before you can publish them, right?

Concerns nr 66 the cheerful gang; also has an orange supporting color and is not the same as 'only' black printing, this also applies to nr 44 de Jommekesclub, which also has black printing with supporting colour. For no. 66 there are indeed variants with or without a title page and with or without a blank endpaper at the front and/or at the back. Which one is the real first edition here and whether there are several I can't say.

As bookshop already mentioned..
http://users.skynet.be/ictzone/jommeke/allerlei/druk1.htm
A better description is currently not available.

Twee halve lappen 23689 staat in de catalogus aangegeven als eerst druk maar is dit volgens mij niet gezien het feit dat onderaan de titelpagina een gecentreerde drukkersimprint staat. Deze verschijningsvorm werd pas vanaf 1971 in gebruik genomen (vanaf nr 45).

Twee halve lappen 4315081 is de enige echte eerste uitgave, zonder Jommeke strook bovenaan en met de drukkersimprint rechts of links onderaan (niet gecentreerd).

I have made an attempt to give some interpretation to the uncolored albums (about the first edition) in the shortest possible way.

You can read it in the background page of Jommeke . It is about the second part of the text, the first was already there (you can also read it on wikipedia).

If there are any comments, please let me know. I'm also going to do some research to improve it.

I made an attempt to sort out Jommeke's small publications (most of the uncertainties regarding reprints were there). I have also frozen a whole part for the time being.

In the background page contains some statements that I have assumed.

I emailed some other people (including not only administrators) to check it out and share their concerns and comments so that it can still be edited. Hopefully we will have a workable and substantiated model to work on within a week.