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September 02, 2020 17:19

I entered this series in 2012, someone else entered the same series in 2013. Or am I missing something?

https://www.lastdodo.nl/catalogus/boeken/boekenreeksen/2139331-nieuwe-rading-tie-mysteries

1 of the 2 should be removed.

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The confusion probably stems from the fact that some are called "Paperback" and others "Bound Book".

From the descriptions I conclude that these are so-called "integral tires", which are somewhat in between the two types in terms of design.

I personally tend to list them under Bound anyway, but adding an Integral band type would also solve the problem.

See also: integral binding

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Dear Harry,

There is another problem with "Judge Dee", 7 sets were created at the time. But it is not a series but a series and there it is. That this does not work is shown by the fact that there are a number of Judge Dee stretches with the addition of Kramers Pockets from Format, which is a series, but it does not only consist of Judge Dee stories. I'd like to fix them up, but then all the Judge Dee sequences will disappear. And you can only group them by choosing the series

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Dear Boekenmagazijn and Enigma: I actually mean that there are now five 1st editions from the "new judge Tie Mysteries" in duplicate in the catalog.

Example the red pavilion is below

3891775 and 2885233

They are "laminated soft covers but bound sections"

So if we agree that all 5 titles are duplicated then 5 "must" be removed and 1 book series or series name kept.

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September 02, 2020 19:33

It was clear to me what you meant, Harry. There is no discussion about this, once it is clear that there are no two versions (paperback and hardback).

Indeed, as Enigma suggests, I would also correct the series names.
Judge Dee series 3, 4 and 5 belong under Kramers Pockets size .
You could consider splitting it into a 1st, 2nd and 3rd series (different cover designs, see also www.rechtertie.nl/ downloads / catalog.pdf ), although it's neat enough, for now.

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Kramers Pockets of Format always precedes a grouping of books of one hero, so the Series to which it has been added belong to Kramer's Pockets of Format and may not be further broken down. Very unfortunate for those 3 Tie series ( 1 , 2 , 3 ), but they really should die. That is, if we agree that Kramer's Pockets from Format is a legitimate umbrella Series, and my initial diagnosis points to that.

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September 02, 2020 19:50

As an aside: a number of books have a paragraph about the author under Specialties. This is a generic text that makes more sense on a background page, and can therefore be removed anywhere.

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Arco @

Kramers Pockets of Format always precedes a grouping of books of one hero, so the Series to which it has been added belong to Kramer's Pockets of Format and may not be further broken down. Very unfortunate for those 3 Tie series ( 1 , 2 , 3 ), but they really should die. That is, if we agree that Kramer's Pockets from Format is a legitimate umbrella Series, and my initial diagnosis points to that.

Even though the series name is named the same by the publisher, they are 3 different series. For example 1 starts again with the number 1, so no further numbering of the existing series. Perhaps a detail, suppose that Kramer had called the clearly different looking series "Kramers pockets of format" series 2 and 3 etc, then they were still separate from each other, as they are now.

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I have not looked into it any further, but as soon as those Kramer pockets of format are given a new numbering, a new Series will indeed arise, namely Kramer pockets of format - 2nd series. Etc ...

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The books were simply reprinted with the same number, only with a different cover design (although not all volumes were reprinted in all versions).
No new numbering, so no different series. (But I think that also applies to the Tintin soft covers, for example, which are broken down by era.

(I should also note that I don't know where to find that numbering on or in the books.)

Another thing: Van Gulik wrote his books in English and most of them were the first to be published in that language. Then doesn't it make sense to include the English title as the Original Title?

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September 03, 2020 12:37

An exception has been made for Tintin in order to have a better overview, I understood.

And yes, original title is English if first published in that language.

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@bookstore

It was known that many of van Gulik's books were first written in English and then in Dutch. Where applicable I have entered both titles, the Dutch and the English, as the original title.

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Had I seen, Enigma, hence my question.

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Someone has told Enigma that more titles are allowed in that field; which is not the agreement. Sometimes I get a headache spontaneously.

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@Bookstore

I personally tend to list them under Bound anyway, but adding an Integral band type would also solve the problem.

I asked this before years ago, but no result, it is still a common binding

Arco?

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September 03, 2020 21:18

Type is unfortunately not an area that we as administrators can easily update. It's already on the to-do list to be able to do that.

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Hi Arco, I don't quite understand you, integral binding is just as binding as paperback, bound, etc. That is easy to add, isn't it?

878985 is such an integral band

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No, unfortunately that table cannot be updated just like that. Has ever been created incorrectly and has yet to be converted to a normal maintainable area.

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Ok, that's why there was so much resistance back then to implement this

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