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August 04, 2014 18:52

According to Catawiki, "De groot voortrekker" (item 23296 ) from 1964. The images for this item are identical to mine, but it is guaranteed not from 1964. It has smooth, radiant white paper, nothing to compare with the paper that Het Volk editions have in 1964, but that is more reminiscent of the 80s. The font (see images) is also much too modern for a 1964 Nys edition. My version has "Drukkerij-Uitgeverij Het Volk" inside, without address or other explanation. And yes, my version has the same title, "The great pioneer", not "The bold pioneer" ...

Are there two (or more) versions under this title? If so, are the images indeed of a later version? Or is there only one version but the year in Catawiki is simply wrong?

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August 05, 2014 22:18

The publication "De groot voortrekker" of "Het Volk" is indeed from the eighties. This is a 92-page stapled edition, uncolored. The story had already appeared in 't Kapoentje and in 2 issues of Ohee, but never in the series of biographies from 1960 and 1961. The Matla catalog is also wrong in this. So this release from the 80s is the first album release.

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August 06, 2014 09:11

Thank you!

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February 02, 2016 13:30

I have changed the explanation (after some new information) for the album to the following for now:

This is the first album release of this story.

The year 1964 is a common mistake. The album is not yet mentioned in the Matla catalog of 1989.

Due to the existence of a signed copy dated 1992, this seems a plausible year of release. This may need to be revised when more information is available.

@ChrisMouton

The release "The great pioneer" of "Het Volk" is indeed from the 80s.

What information do you have that you assume is from the 80s?

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February 02, 2016 14:04

1998 instead of 1989 please ...

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February 02, 2016 14:05

1998 instead of 1989 please ...

You mean?

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February 02, 2016 14:23

Matla catalog, right?

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February 02, 2016 15:13

Yes, but I looked at the 7th edition from 1989, which does not contain the album. It was signed in 1992, hence the conclusion that the album is from 1990 at the earliest, and from 1992 at the latest. With the great certainty that it certainly existed in 1992.

Has anyone released the 8th edition 1993 to check if it is there? (And with what date.)

I'm pretty sure it's in the 9th (and last for now) for sure, with the year 1964 included. Can you confirm that Arco?

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February 02, 2016 15:27

Oh, the latest edition says '1964?', and the publisher is not Het Volk, but Wilrijk City Council ... Matla's information about the book comes from an account in the edition of Spirit (late nineties), is there ...

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February 02, 2016 15:39

So here comes the info everyone has taken over.

If Chris can still say why he suspects it is from the 80s, maybe we can continue looking.

When exactly was it in the Kapoentje and in Ohee? (1964?)

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February 02, 2016 15:46

Wouldn't Matla mean 23298 ? It apparently belongs to the City of Antwerp...

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February 02, 2016 15:51

Well, the spirit releases are from 2000.

But to make 1996 the year 1964?

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February 02, 2016 16:09

Matla recorded that Spirit in 1998 and even extracted information from it, so it must be a maximum of 1997 or something, you know ... Matla dates it with certainty to 1996. And that is the year in which we at Catawiki of the City of Antwerp. What a mess!

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February 02, 2016 16:17

It's going to be difficult.

So first edition from 1992 (could be a few more years off).

Spirits from 1996.

City Antwerp? Does Matla say anything about this?

PS why the title change? (only a few years after the first edition)

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February 02, 2016 16:39

Matla only mentions Wilrijk municipal council from 1964? and the City of Antwerp with changed title from 1996. He does not mention Spirit; my mistake. 2000 will be correct. He got his info from the edition of the City of Antwerp. I was reading crooked.

In Catawiki we have editions Het Volk, City of Antwerp and Spirit.

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February 02, 2016 17:01

This fantastic biography (read "rock bad book ") does not help you any further: Het Volk edition, 1964. Title: De bold voortrekker, image from the album from 2000 .... pffff.

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February 07, 2016 16:22

For if it still matters: 8th edition (1993) he is not responsible.

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February 08, 2016 14:07

Thank you Clemi, another piece of information.

Matla only mentions Wilrijk municipal council from 1964? and the City of Antwerp with changed title from 1996. He does not mention Spirit; my mistake. 2000 will be correct. He got his info from the edition of the City of Antwerp. I was reading crooked.

In Catawiki we have editions Het Volk, City of Antwerp and Spirit.

The publisher is clearly stated on the title page (I added as image 3). This is the "Het Volk" edition, probably from +/- 1992. There is no letter to be found about Wilrijk or even the appearance that the album was from 1964.

The other two versions correspond between catawiki and Matla.

Could it also be that Matla does not know "our" copy of Het Volk (the album certainly existed in 1992 but is not in the Matla of 1993) but that the Wilrijk version is 1964 also exists (but not yet on Catawiki)?

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