Stamps/South Korea - double seal17 messages

Gelieve na te gaan of de zegels in Zuid-Korea 1990 - Hong Young-sik en deze van Beroemde personen - beiden met waarde 600 - wel degelijk dezelfde zeges zijn en indien wel kunnen deze volgens mij samengevoegd worden tot 1 item.

Please check whether the stamps in South Korea 1990 - Hong Young-sik and those of Famous Persons - both with a value of 600 - are indeed the same victories and if so, I think they can be combined into 1 item.

If you want to mention the catawiki number of both stamps (preferably with a link) then people with knowledge of the area can answer the question more easily.

The no is 3069341 - meanwhile the second is duplicated - Can the data be merged into 1 item - it appears to be the same stamp here

Miscchien zouden wij doublures via de speciale forum/site  kunnen melden.

Dan kunnen beheerders deze misschien sneller verwijderen.

Hiermee wordt het zoekwerk van een beheerder beperkt.

Doublures blijven wel erg lang in het systeem hangen.

Mvg

Micho Rooseboom , een verzamelaar

Perhaps we could report duplicates via the special forum/site.

Then administrators may be able to remove them more quickly.

This restricts an administrator's search.

Duplicates remain in the system for a very long time.

Best regards

Micho Rooseboom, a collector

That would be better idd Micho. Have been looking at all stamps on cw for about 2 weeks now and have now arrived at the letter q, but from a to p I encountered a lot of duplicates that have been there for years, only it seems not that easy to remove duplicates to which people belong, ie whether they are in their collection, shop or search list. Anyone who has duplicates in 1 of those 3 will have to remove them first and add the correct one to 1 of those 3, before an administrator can remove all duplicates. Although there are also duplicates that do not hang on to anyone and are still there. Sometimes it is also difficult to see if it is a duplicate, sometimes a stamp is entered too small or upside down that you hardly see the difference. Often it is also typed incorrectly after the title, instead of duplicating .... it says something completely different.

A few tips or rules to help administrators with duplication:

• If no one (or only the importer) is linked to the item yet (collection, shop, search list), please report the duplication with mention or link to the Catawiki number, best in a separate topic 'Duplication reports' in the PZ forum. If no one is associated with it yet, an administrator can still disapprove the item - the sooner the better. Collections can also be 'private' and it may appear that no one is linked, but rejection is no longer possible.
  
• it greatly helps the administrators to transfer possibly more complete data from the duplication to the original item. Otherwise, this must be done when merging (see below).
  
• If someone is linked to the item (other than the importer) then an administrator can no longer reject the item. The item can only be merged.
  
  The title of the item must then be changed to 'Doublure van 1234567', where '1234567' is the Catawiki number of the existing item.
  
  In case of duplication, the oldest item is always the one that remains.
  
  Always use the text 'Duplication of ..' because that text is searched by administrators. Do not only adjust the NL text, but remove the titles of the other 3 languages and 'tab' through them from the filled NL title. Our foreign collectors must also be able to see that it is a 'duplicate'.
  

Merging duplicates is only reserved for Catawiki 'super' administrators, and is an ongoing meticulous process that cannot be rushed.

Thanks for the further explanation Wilfred and I totally agree.

In case of duplication, the oldest item is always the item that remains.

Always? Even if the newer item has a much better image?

Yes. An administrator can request that image and place it with the older item. Sometimes I make an exception. if no one is linked to the older item, but the new item is already linked.

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I think this was the guideline:

Always keep the most complete when earmarking duplicates. Oldest is a nice starting point for the original importer, but not always practical and it is already time-consuming enough. If Collectarom is one of the importers, then always keep them, otherwise the sorting in the galleries will (still) go wrong.

Complete also looks at the number of linked collectors. With the first entered with 2 collectors or the new with 20 collectors, it is really more work to remove the one with 20. So work efficiently. What does the least work to remove: that will be the duplication. In case of a tie, choose the oldest. But remember: always keep the Collect-a-ROM seal.

Where does it come from? I missed this one. I am relying on the maxims once expressed by 'super management'.

Administrator forum: uniformity between different administrators.

The penultimate response from Arco.

Az60 rightly refers to a comment of mine. Preference is of course always the oldest, unless it entails a lot of work / time that you can spend better. And if Collectarom is in the game, it (still) always comes first. So it is not black and white, although you would like to see it. (;-) It also has to do with decency towards the first importer.

If the first importer has not bothered to do a proper scan and enter all the data and the second has, then my sense of decency will choose the latter. (And especially with small items such as stamps and pins, images are always decisive for me.)

Dat kan je ook omdraaien door te zeggen dat invoerder 2 niet de moeite heeft genomen om te kijken of een item er al instaat.

Het is een Wiki, dus afbeeldingen mogen verbeterd worden.

You can also turn that around by saying that entry 2 has not bothered to check whether an item is already there.

It's a wiki, so images may be improved.

Nail on the head. For example, always take into account how the input instructions were approximately at the time of the first input.