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January 22, 2014 14:33

I receive the following comment from an 'auctioneer'

The 1st edition has wood-containing paper. The hallmarks are yellowed color and much thicker paper.

Answered: it cannot be anything other than a first printing. Have another first edition here and there are no differences to be seen,

Response from another VM:

I understand from your email that you does not know the difference between wood-containing and wood-free paper.
With this we know enough.

I do not know what that means,

But yellowed color (everything yellowed, only chlorine bleached maybe not !!!) and thicker than WHAT ????

I am an accountant and I am a little bit aware of paper.

I think the structure is completely different from wood-containing paper

Who is a real specialist ????


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January 22, 2014 14:49

You could still find some fiber in wood containing wood. Wood-containing paper is somewhat thicker compared to the other paper. (But you can only see that if you put it next to each other)

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January 22, 2014 17:09

A very clear difference is an old Red knight (uncolored) and a "new" uncolored Red knight.

There you can clearly see the difference between the thickness and the yellow color compared to the "white copy. ".

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January 22, 2014 17:28

the one with wood-containing paper is almost 1.5 times thicker than the one with the regular paper ... just put it next to another version and compare the thickness

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January 22, 2014 18:57

Actually, if you look closely, I think you can still partially see the structure of the wood, or do I see them flying?

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January 22, 2014 20:11

Wouldn't it be useful if someone (who has both albums) mentions how thick they are in the catalog? Not everyone recognizes paper quality (unless by comparison), but most people have a ruler at home.

(Incidentally, both versions are referred to in Catawiki as First Edition, which makes the auctioneer's comment a bit more confusing. .)

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January 22, 2014 21:40

which Tintin is it actually?

Edit: was in another thread, confusing. But The Mysterious Star actually has 2 1st editions, because it is not clear which is the real one, the wood-free or the wood-containing version. This is clearly stated in Ottens, so in CW it must be copied that way

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January 22, 2014 23:45

it's about the mysterious star.

Should buy a sliding caliper urgently, because measure the thickness with a tape measure ???

Had here just a book Peoples, princes and prophets by readers digest of the seventies in my hands, with extra thick yellowed paper, but it says on 120grs. wood-free machine coated.

But the structure of the paper also shows less different signs.

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January 23, 2014 01:09

It's very simple, if the album is as thick as any other Tintin you have, then it's wood-free paper, roughly speaking. Wood-containing paper is so much thicker that the album is 1.5 times thicker, you don't need a tape measure or sliding adjuster for that

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January 23, 2014 15:57

I understand from your email that you do not know the difference between wood-containing and wood-free paper.
With this we know enough

I think the answer from the auctioneer is very arrogant and condescending! An auctioneer is there at the service of the contributors and to serve the auction house CataWiki well. With the above answer you are actually saying that every contributor should know the difference between wood-containing and wood-free paper! Then you exclude a lot of contributors, because you only know that once you have seen the difference? As already mentioned, not everyone has a sliding ruler (with an ordinary measuring tape / ruler you will not see it (mm work).

A normal explanation between wood-containing and wood-free paper and / or at least the explanation that it If the copy you have entered does not refer to the correct CataWiki copy, it is much better, at least then you provide a clear and tidy explanation as befits a real auctioneer.

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