LastDodo site & app/accounting purchase auction8 messages

Aangezien ik handel in margegoederen vroeg ik me af hoe het zit met het verwerken van aankopen in de boekhouding.

Normaal zit er geen BTW op aangekochte goederen en aangezien ik de margeregeling met globalisering hanteer trek in de totale kosten van een aankoop (aanschaf + verzendkosten) af van de verkopen over de betreffende periode, om daar vervolgens de BTW over te berekenen.

Als ik nu iets ga aanschaffen via de veiling betaal ik behalve de biedprijs en verzendkosten ook veilingkosten en BTW.

Ik neem aan dat de BTW slechts over de veilingkosten is berekend aangezien een veiling ook margegoederen verhandelt en dus geen BTW in rekening brengt over de aankopen.

Moet ik nu de totale kosten die ik moet betalen na een aankoop rekenen als inkoopprijs, of moet ik het opsplitsen in de biedprijs + verzenkosten en dit aftrekken van mijn totale verkopen over de betreffende periode, en vervolgens de veilingkosten boeken als kosten waarover ik vervolgens de BTW kan terugvorderen ?

Wie heeft hier ervaring mee ?

Since I trade in margin goods, I was wondering how about processing purchases in accounting.

Normally there is no VAT on purchased goods and since I use the margin scheme with globalization, I deduct the total costs of a purchase (purchase + shipping costs) from the sales over the relevant period, in order to subsequently calculate the VAT.

If I now buy something through the auction, I pay auction costs and VAT in addition to the bid price and shipping costs.

I assume that the VAT is only calculated on the auction costs since an auction also trades margin goods and therefore does not charge VAT on the purchases.

Should I now count the total costs that I have to pay after a purchase as the purchase price, or should I break it down into the bid price + shipping costs and subtract this from my total sales for the period in question, and then book the auction costs as costs that I then pay the Can VAT be reclaimed?

Who has experience with this ?

@waiwaihworks
Who has experience with this?

You should always discuss this with your accountant. About the goods themselves, i.v.m. the margin scheme, indeed, no VAT is paid. But if you want to reclaim the VAT on the auction costs, you will have to book it separately anyway.

I have an accountant who I can consult who checks my tax return, but I always find it a challenge to sort everything out myself so that I know exactly what I am doing. Hence my post here.

Since I have not yet made a purchase, I also did not know exactly how it was with the VAT, but your answer makes it clear to me how that is.

It is still important for me to find out whether the auction costs should be included in the total purchase price and what is the situation with the VAT.

@waiwaihworks

Wij doen het als volgt:

Aankoop veiling + verzendkosten valt onder inkoop marge ( op de verzendkosten zit ook geen BTW )

Veilingkosten aankoop 9% hierop zit 21% btw

Deze post valt onder kosten en de 21% btw kunt u terugvorderen.

Helaas wordt op de inkoop factuur bij veilingkosten door catawiki geen 21% BTW apart vermeld.

Deze zult u zelf uit moeten rekenen.

Wij hebben hierover een tijd geleden een vraag gestuurd, catawiki draagt over de veilingkosten wel de 21 % btw af zodat u deze wel terug kunt vorderen.

@waiwaihworks

We do it as follows:

Purchase auction + shipping costs fall under purchasing margin (the shipping costs also do not include VAT)

Auction costs purchase 9%, this includes 21% VAT

This item falls under costs and you can reclaim the 21% VAT.

Unfortunately, Catawiki does not state 21% VAT separately on the purchase invoice for auction costs.

You will have to calculate this yourself.

We sent a question about this a while ago, Catawiki does pay the 21% VAT on the auction costs so that you can reclaim it.

Purchase auction + shipping costs fall under the purchase margin (the shipping costs also do not include VAT)

Auction costs purchase 9%, this includes 21% VAT

This item is a cost and you can reclaim the 21% VAT.

Unfortunately, the purchase invoice does not mention 21% VAT separately for auction costs by Catawiki.

You will have to calculate this yourself.

This was indeed the way I had in mind.

The problem is that according to you the invoice does not include VAT on the auction costs.

The tax authorities require a specified VAT invoice if you wish to reclaim VAT.

Catawiki may consider adjusting this?

Incidentally, I read on another forum that auction costs charged by the provider of the auction should be added to the total price of the margin sale. In that case, they would have to pay VAT themselves on the total amount, but it cannot be stated on the invoice as it concerns a margin sale ...

De veilingkosten van 9% worden wel apart vermeld op de factuur, alleen wordt deze niet gesplitst in Veilingkosten + BTW = totaal veilingkosten.

Bij verkoop veilingkosten wordt het wel netjes vermeld.

Wij hebben het mailtje wat wij gekregen hebben, dat over de veilingkosten wel 21% btw wordt afgedragen en daarin staat ook dat wij deze dan terug kunnen vorderen en het alleen zelf moeten uitrekenen. Deze doen wij er dan bij als wij wat op de veiling kopen.

The auction costs of 9% are stated separately on the invoice, but this is not split into Auction costs + VAT = total auction costs.

When selling auction costs, it is neatly stated.

We have received the email that we have received 21% VAT on the auction costs and it also states that we can reclaim this and only have to calculate it ourselves. We then add this when we buy something at the auction.

and yet catawiki can best break down that VAT, just update the program and the rest will happen automatically

hallo,

I am setting up an administration for margin goods.

It is true that auction costs can be calculated at the purchase price be?