Stamps/how to offer via the shop?29 messages

I was able to make one offer of a stamp via the catalog of this stamp.

I cannot find another offer of a stamp how to enter it?

The is about the stamp Yvert nr 12A coherent in pair.

Yvert 12A cannot be found in the catalog anyway, so how to offer a coherent pair of these?

nice and clear, it would be useful if you also mention the country.

Ok, my question was asked generally, but it is explicitly about the Belgium Yvert nr 12A.

What I also find nothing about is an offer of part of a series of stamps: for example one number is missing? Can this be offered as a series with mention of the missing stamp?

if you offer something that is not a complete series, then you have to choose the individual stamps and put them in your shop as a combination offer

Thank you, but now my problem is even bigger: how do I create a combination offer?

What then to do with a massive collection of mainly canceled stamps from nrs 53 to somewhere 700, where only a limited number of canceled stamps were missing and which were completely exchanged in a collection of non-canceled stamps? This one can probably be offered as a total somewhere.

But in addition, there are a number of complete (no problem apparently) and series with 1 or 2 missing stamps.

These are the last 2 shapes that I wish to offer individually.

Some of them cannot even be offered in the shop because the selling price is above 75 €.

Vb seal Belgium Yvert 291E already has a catalog value of 1150 € and I can nowhere find that it was already offered.

I have double (sometimes series) of the classic up to nrs 52 (some associated with 2, some with 3), selling price also above the 75 € limit ...

I'm just trying to get an answer to what I can offer and those are several that are not in the catalog and so I don't know how get it in the shop?

Combination offer:

Go to your country / countries of choice. Select the stamps you want in the combination offer. Check them in the white box to the right above the depicted stamp. To the left of the gallery you will see bulk adding to collection, shop or search list. Click on this. Choose shop. Choose a combination offer instead of a single stamp. I think it should work. Now you can decide for yourself whether you follow the course of Sinbad (after all, he is a sailor (:-)) or your own course. Good luck.

Problems arose in the past with too many stamps in 1 combination offer. See the forum for this. Enter a combination offer as a search query.

Prices up to 75, - can be done in the shop. Selling price above that, you can only sell them at Catawiki through the auction.

Thank you, that combination offer can be entered.

Then my question remains how can stamps be entered in the shop that cannot be found in the catalog?

It's about not individual stamps (which themselves are not included in the catalog as a variant - eg 12A -) but such an unincorporated stamp that a variant still has?

Stamps that are not in the catalog can therefore not be placed in the shop. You will have to add the stamp to the catalog first. That can be a direct variant.

So a combination offer of the following stamped there, all variants must first be created in the catalog?

Belgium Yvert 17 - 17a - 17b - 17c - 18 - 18a - 18b - 18c - 18d - 19 - 19a - 19b - 20 - 20a - 21

Life is about walking from problem to problem.

It is important to solve as many problems as possible as quickly as possible, after all new problems keep coming up and if you don't solve the old ones you will drown a given moment in trouble.

Because problems come naturally and arise during life, there is nothing more bizarre than people (who out of a kind of fun) create extra nonsensical problems themselves.

You are already several contributions busy making a hopeless combination offer THAT NEVER WANT TO HAVE ANYONE.

What the hell are you doing ??? life is already difficult enough, in a few days you will have it done and who are you happy with your combination offer that consists of various half series?, which anyone who wants those stamps can also click them separately .... Bizarrely useless self-created drama around it .....

@etruscan

Yvert & Tellier-nummers 17a, 17b, 17c, 18b, 18c, 18d, 19a, 19b en 20a bestaan niet!

Indien je de Officiële Postzegelcatalogus België bedoelt, dan werden volgende nummers OBP wel in de Catawikicatalogus opgenomen:

17: 695257

17a: 391505

18: 297943

18a: 1133885

19: 282647

20: 1835745

21: 282667

@etruscan

Yvert & Tellier numbers 17a, 17b, 17c, 18b, 18c, 18d, 19a, 19b and 20a do not exist!

If you mean the Official Stamp Catalog Belgium, then the following numbers OBP have been included in the Catawiki catalogue:

17: 695257

17a: 391505

18: 297943

18a: 1133885

19: 282647

20: 1835745

21: 282667

@Sinbad

Je bent nu al diverse bijdrage bezig met het maken van een kansloze combinatie-aanbieding DIE NOOIT IEMAND WIL HEBBEN.

Indien je de OBP erbij neemt is deze combinatie niet zo kansloos:

De reeks van 1865 omvat met alle kleurvarianten 18 zegels, tanding 14½:14

Er is ook nog een reeks van 1867 met tanding 15, omvattend met de kleurvarianten 15 zegels.

Weinigen zullen het ganse palet kunnen aanbieden.

@Sinbad

You are already making various contributions to making a hopeless combination offer THAT NO ONE WANTS TO HAVE.

If you include the OBP, this combination does not stand a chance:

The series of 1865 includes 18 stamps with all color variants, perforation 14½:14

There is also a series from 1867 with perforation 15, comprising 15 stamps with the color variants.

Few will be able to offer the entire palette.

Those who want the entire palette probably already have a few (that's why they want the other ones too) that are stamps by putting the seller in the shop in 3 minutes and by someone who wants the entire palette but there already 3 can also be ordered within 2 minutes, so it is and will continue to be difficult to do nothing, offering it separately will create a greater sales opportunity for the best man (after all, most who want to have the entire palette already have a few from the palette) It is interesting to talk about a problem that should never have been there from the start, an unnecessarily created difficult case, a joke that is treated as a serious case

@Sinbad,

Oh well, it is always educational for someone. I also didn't know how to create a combination offer. I also usually offer them separately. That is, if I still open my shop. Furthermore, Etruscan himself must know how he wants to present his stamps. If it doesn't work, he can always split.

@Tapir   :  Yvert & Tellier-nummers 17a, 17b, 17c, 18b, 18c, 18d, 19a, 19b en 20a bestaan niet!

Dan moet ik je teleurstellen!

Allereerst heb je met tanding 14½ x 14 (1864) - lijntanding

naast de reeks 17-21 een aantal varianten :

17 a) b) c)   18 a) b) c) d)  19 a) b)   20 a) b)  21 a) b)

En daarnaast heb je met tanding 15 (1/2/1867) kamtanding

17A a) b) c)  18A  a) b) c)  19A a) b)  20 a)  21A a)

De reeks met varianten die ik heb dat is de eerste soort.

Nog zo'n reeks met varianten die ik niet ga creëren :

53 - 53 a) - 54 - 55 - 55 a) - 56 - 56 b) - 57 - 58 - 58 a) - 59 - 59 a) - 60 - 60 b) - 61 - 61 b) - 61 c) - 62  - 63 - 64 - 65 - 65 a) - 66 - 67

Begin er als verzamelaar maar aan om dergelijke reeksen met varianten samen te stellen?

En neen, aanbieden per zegel is waanzin, want dan blijf je uiteindelijk met een paar zegels zitten en zijn de individuele zegels voor peanuts weg gegaan. Terwijl een reeks met varianten een hoger bedrag dan de catalogusprijs zal gaan.

Een bepaalde variant heeft een cataloguswaarde van 7.500 € op zichzelf. Door de samenstelling wordt er 125% van die catalogusprijs betaald...

Neen, uit elkaar trekken is enkel interessant voor een koper die een paar mooie extra zegels kan verkrijgen maar de verkoper ziet de waarde van zijn serie voor 80% verloren gaan. Dus per zegel aanbieden van deze : nooit!!!

@Tapir : Yvert & Tellier numbers 17a, 17b, 17c, 18b, 18c, 18d, 19a, 19b and 20a don't exist!

Then I have to disappoint you!

First of all, with perforation you have 14½ x 14 (1864) - line perforation

in addition to the series 17-21 a number of variants:

17 a) b) c) 18 a) b) c) d) 19 a) b) 20 a) b) 21 a) b)

And in addition, with perforation 15 (1/2/1867) you have comb perforation

17A a) b) c) 18A a) b) c) 19A a) b) 20 a) 21A a)

The series of variants that I have is the first kind.

Another series of variants that I'm not going to create:

53 - 53 a) - 54 - 55 - 55 a) - 56 - 56 b) - 57 - 58 - 58 a) - 59 - 59 a) - 60 - 60 b) - 61 - 61 b) - 61 c) - 62 - 63 - 64 - 65 - 65 a) - 66 - 67

As a collector, should you start putting together such series with variants?

And no, offering per stamp is madness, because then you end up with a few stamps and the individual stamps have gone for peanuts. While a series with variants will go for a higher amount than the list price.

A certain variant has a catalog value of 7,500 € on its own. Due to the composition, 125% of that list price is paid...

No, pulling apart is only interesting for a buyer who can obtain a few nice extra stamps, but the seller sees the value of his series lost for 80%. So offering these per stamp: never!!!

On the other hand, it is only in Catawiki shops that you can purchase individual stamps from series.

Most sellers only offer series.

Then try a Yvert 268 (a 'stupid' stamp with a list price of 1.00 € in MNH version ...

Today I receive a series to fill in 2 missing stamps.

Yvert 273 - 288A

The problem with this one was that the one stamp I needed - Yvert 282 (again a 'dumb' stamp of 0.50 € the variant 282a) and the 288 was not present and the 288A was without eraser!

Seller "of course" does not respond to my e-mail ...

@etruscan

I'm sorry but 17a - 21b = 7500 reminds me too much of high school. Furthermore, we do not use Yvert here, but our own catalog. A little more reference to the Catawiki catalog makes it a bit clearer. This also applies to an explanation of the different variants. This makes the forum pretty illegible for others who know less about it, but want to update their knowledge. I think most have dropped out by now.

@etruscan

Nogmaals: je vergist je!

Al hetgeen je vermeldt inzake nummering en diverse tandingen staat in OBP en niet in Y&T.

Ik raad je dringend aan de OBP te raadplegen en te vergelijken met de bestaande catawikinummers vooraleer je nieuwe items gaat invoeren (zie al een beperkte lijst in mijn bovenstaand bericht). Ik kan je desgevallend wel helpen, indien je dit wenst).

Doublures van bestaande items worden gewoonweg afgekeurd en dan zouden we "domme" zegeltjes hebben van een "domme" verkoper...:)

@etruscan

Again: you are mistaken!

Everything you mention regarding numbering and various perforations is in OBP and not in Y&T.

I strongly advise you to consult the OBP and compare it with the existing catalog numbers before entering new items (see a limited list in my post above). I can help you if you wish).

Duplicates of existing items are simply rejected and then we would have "dumb" stamps from a "dumb" seller...:)

I would have found it interesting if one person said: 'I have a color variant of Catawiki number X and a different perforation at Catawiki number Y. Then the other could have said. Well that color variant I have my doubts about, I know different intermediate shapes. But I would like to see that abnormal perforation. Or something else in that vein. Then we would have benefited from it. Now it is yes - no.

@ AZ60 I am not with your 'welles - nots'.

Look, you have the beginner collectors: classify heaps of stamps in an album (with the necessary problems of what to classify with what or what after what).

Then you have the advanced ones: they purchase an album with a pre-selection (leuchtturm).

After that you have the next level of collectors: they start collecting thematically (usually because they were already stuck with the advanced system, got their album semi-full or can't find a few stamps or they cannot be purchased because it is too expensive).

Thematic collecting is - depending on the theme - the most difficult. From a collection of one stamp with different cancellations to stamps with variants, or stamps on letter. You can't even go to most sellers for these.

And these thematic collectors can't go to Catawiki either ...

Wat het belang van varianten betreft, daar kan ik verwijzen naar een recente verkoop van een brief met een reeks van 3 x OBP 11A.

Die OBP 11A heeft een waarde vermeld van 12 € als zegel. In een strip van 3 een waarde van 100 € en op brief een waarde van 235 €.

Recent is een reeks van 3 op brief verkocht voor 600€ (te verhogen met 18% veilingkosten + BTW op de veilingkosten).

Een reeks van 7x OBP 17 (waarde OBP 3,00 €), serie op afstempeling, werd verkocht voor  160 €.

Een kleine verzameling afgestempelde van OBP 1 + 2, samen met een OBP 1 op brief, met een OBP waarde van 370 € werd verkocht voor 420 €.

Een verzameling afgestempelde 16x OBP 30 (waarde 0,5 per stuk) werd verkocht voor 46 €.

Een verzameling afgestempelde 12x OBP 30 (waarde 0,5 per stuk) werd verkocht voor 175 €.

Een verzameling varianten van 10x afgestempelde OBP 38 (waarde OBP 3,00 ) werd verkocht voor 100 €.

Ik kan zo nog doorgaan.

Het bewijs is overduidelijk, en dan wil Sinbad dergelijke aanbiedingen uiteentrekken in individuele postzegels? infantiel kolderiek?

As for the importance of variants, there I can refer to a recent sale of a letter with a series of 3 x OBP 11A.

That OBP 11A has a value of 12 € as a stamp. In a strip of 3 a value of 100 € and on a letter a value of 235 €.

A series of 3 was recently sold by letter for €600 (to be increased by 18% auction costs + VAT on the auction costs).

A series of 7x OBP 17 (value OBP 3.00 €), series on cancellation, was sold for 160 €.

A small collection of canceled OBP 1 + 2, together with an OBP 1 on letter, with an OBP value of 370 € was sold for 420 €.

A collection of canceled 16x OBP 30 (value 0.5 each) sold for €46.

A collection of canceled 12x OBP 30 (value 0.5 each) sold for €175.

A collection of variants of 10x canceled OBP 38 (value OBP 3.00) was sold for 100 €.

I can go on like this.

The evidence is abundantly clear, and then Sinbad wants to break down such offers into individual stamps? infantile madness?