Stamps/seal Abkhazia14 messages

There is now a stamp that is supposedly from Abkhazia (separated part of Georgia), under number 4759779 . I can assure you that this seal is not from Abkhazia. Officially, that area does not even issue its own stamps. I don't know which country the stamp belongs to, but the photo is of such poor quality anyway that I suggest removing it.

The fact that it is not an official release is not that important. But is it really Abkhazia? Who can judge that from those pictures that actually cause a squint-headache?

The seal has an inscription in Arabic script, which is absolutely not used in Abkhazia. They use the Cyrillic script there, as can also be seen at http://www.neofila.com/stamps/Abkhazia.htm, where a list of all the stamps of Abkhazia can be found. Only since 1993 have stamps been issued for this area (the majority of which were made for collectors outside the country).

In short, this seal is really not from Abkhazia, with 100% certainty.

If you are sure, you can change the country to Unidentified anyway. The administrators will come across it by themselves.

OK, didn't know that country code existed. Great solution. Adjusted it like this.

Thanks,

Tom

Abkhazie is also here at cinderella's

@tdejong

All stamps of Abkhazie are '' cinderellas '', fortunately we can now record everything, Abkhazia in Arabic does not make it even more fake than Abkhazie in Cyrillic, Chinese or Latin, so in this one it is completely inrelevant that it is in Arabic.

In short, this seal is really not from Abkhazia, with 100% certainty.

So this statement is true, but not only for the Arabic variant, either just under Abkhazia with the rest of the Cyrillic fakes :), To my knowledge all Cyrillic fakes from Abkhazia are printed on Guernsey (A of the Channel Islands) or Nigeria, in these the seals are just as Abkhasic as the Arabian seal, you, Arco and me.

Sinbad, it's a shame you think you have to react so fiercely and smartly. I had already mentioned that the stamps of Abkhazia are almost always not 'real' postage stamps. The term Cindarella is new to me, but it's great that the stamps with Abkhazia are printed underneath. But my observation that it was not true that there was an Arabic text on this stamp is separate from that. The seal I was referring to is not Cindarella from Abkhazia, but a 'normal' seal from an unidentified Arabic-speaking country. And that's why he didn't belong under Abkhazia.

Anyway, things have been adjusted, so that's fine.

Greetings,

Tom

Is the stamp not from Turkey or the Ottoman Empire. The moon with star at the top (turning a quarter turn) resembles this. However, I cannot find it as a stamp. Is it a stamp? I think it says: "You can hand in full books ....". After that, the photo is too blurry to read properly.

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Ja man een zegel van de Turkse Groenteboer Ab(doela) Gazie uit Almere bij een volle kaart gratis kufte-kruiden...

effe seriues heb de zegel bekeken het het is een Turkse (Ottomaanse) zegel en voordat iemand roept ''in Turkije schrijven ze met het Latijnse schrift niet het Arabische'' toendertijd dus nog wel

Overigens is de Islam de leidende godsdienst in Abchazie(en dus het Arabisch schrift niet onbekend)

Vroeger was Abchazie en onderdeel van het Ottomaanse rijk in 1810 werdt het veroverd door de Russen maar tijdens de 10de Russisch-Turkse Oorlog werdt Abchazie van 1877 tot 1878 (her)bezet door de Turken, kan dus goed dat het een zegel is uit die tijd

Yes man a stamp from the Turkish greengrocer Ab(doela) Gazie from Almere with a full card free kufte herbs...

have a look at the stamp, it is a Turkish (Ottoman) stamp and before someone shouts ''in Turkey they write with the Latin script not the Arabic'' at the time, so still

Incidentally, Islam is the leading religion in Abkhazia (and therefore the Arabic script is not unknown)

Abkhazia used to be part of the Ottoman Empire, it was conquered by the Russians in 1810, but during the 10th Russo-Turkish War, Abkhazia was (re)occupied by the Turks from 1877 to 1878, so it may very well be a seal from that time

If everyone just stopped waging war, we might get Catawiki a little better organized. If other arguments don't work, try this one anyway.

Arco,

All those annoying wars make the fillatelie an interesting puzzle :) (I searched the schompes for tdejong's stamp on the internet and my catalogs, but unfortunately found nothing while the stamp seems so familiar, has anyone here ever asked a question about this stamp on the forum before?)

oja tdejong might be smart, but in the meantime I have put a lot of time to help with your stamp Can't say it's full of responses from others who have done the same for you, to add to that.

After a long search I couldn't figure it out either. Hence my question whether it is a stamp. I have looked at everything about Turkey and a lot (all?) Of the countries that belonged to the Ottoman Empire. I did see that Azerbaijan and Georgia also partly carried the moon with a star. Anyway. I hope that the manager of Turkey can give a definite answer. And has someone already tried to inquire about the origin of the stamp from the person who entered the stamp. Unfortunately, my French is too bad to be able to ask. And my Arabic is even worse to read what is on the stamp.