Stamps/Questions about first day envelopes.13 messages

Beste forumer,

Ook deze vakantie besteed ik tijd,naast de postzegels, aan mijn eerste dag enveloppen.

Omdat ik meestal vanaf de jaren 80 iets heb gespaard, komt nu de tijd aan bod van voor de jaren 80. In de begin jaren werden, wat ik begrepen heb, de eerste dag enveloppen naar je toe gestuurd, vandaar de adressen. In de catalogi staan bedragen voor met en zonder adres tot en met E61.

Nu heb ik een doos met eerste dag aangekocht en daar zitten ook enveloppen bij, later dan E61 met adres. Hoe gevoelig ligt dit?

Klopt 't verhaal dat er altijd twee stempels op moeten staan, ook al heeft de envelop maar 1 zegel?

Ik heb mij eigenlijk daar nooit zo mee bezig gehouden, omdat ik ze gewoon heb voor eeht mooie, om van te genieten. Nu ben ik er iets verder ingedoken en kom ik op dit uit.

Alvast bedankt voor de reactie('s) 

Greetz,

William Herschel

Dear forumer,

Also this holiday I spend time, next to the stamps, on my first day envelopes.

Because I usually saved something from the 1980s, I will now discuss the time before the 1980s. In the early years, what I understand, envelopes were sent to you on the first day, hence the addresses. The catalogs contain amounts for with and without address up to and including E61.

Now I have bought a box with first day and it also includes envelopes, later than E61 with address. How sensitive is this?

Is it true that there should always be two stamps on it, even if the envelope only has 1 stamp?

I've actually never been that concerned with that, because I just have them for a beautiful thing, to enjoy. Now I've delved a little further into this and I've come to this.

Thanks for the comments)

Greetz,

William Herschel

@William,

Nu heb ik een doos met eerste dag aangekocht en daar zitten ook enveloppen bij, later dan E61 met adres. Hoe gevoelig ligt dit?

met potlood beschreven kun je nog weg vlakken misschien, zo niet dan zijn het "" gestempelde uitvoeringen.

onbeschreven FDC noemen we postfris.

2 stempels? ja dat zou kunnen, maar soms ook 1 heb ik gemerkt.

als je maar op de uitvoering let, er moet 1e dag afstempeling op staan.

je hebt de voorbeelden hier op CW staan.

@William,

Now I have bought a box with first day and it also includes envelopes, later than E61 with address. How sensitive is this?

written in pencil you can erase perhaps, if not then they are "" stamped versions.

we call unwritten FDC MNH.

2 stamps? yes that could be, but sometimes I have also noticed 1.

as long as you pay attention to the implementation, it must have the 1st day stamp on it.

you have the examples here on CW.

Obviously, thx.

Now I just found a first day envelope even without stamp on it.

Forgotten probably.

What is something like in the were envelopes from day one?

if there is no stamp on it, then you cannot speak about first day envelope !!

again if there is a stamp on it stating "first day stamp, then you can speak about a FDC, rather not

Any stamp of the same date of issue is an FDC.

Yes, that's right, but then you need to know the date of issue.

Opens a world of incomprehension for me.

@Sinbad, ik geef alleen maar antwoord op vragen die voor William simpel zijn.

even letten op de afstempeling "eerste dag afstempeling" zodat William in iedergeval alvast weet wat een fdc is.

het feit dat hij totaal nog niet op de hoogte is blijkt uit zijn 3 vragen die hij stelde in het begin.

en net zoals ik het antwoord gaf op het antwoord op Rob. als het om een stempel gaat van gelijke datum, dat hij dan wel moet weten wat de uitgifte datum is.

dus verder beweer ik niets dan dat er gewoon een stempel op de fdc vermeld moet staan met een1e dag afstempeling.

en daarna zei Rob dat het ook een gewone stempel mag zijn met een gelijke datum.

en dat mag ook, dat is ook een 1e dag afstempeling als hij weet wat de uitgifte datum is.

envelop zonder afstempeling, is een gefrankeerde envelop, en vergeten op te sturen naar William, zoals William zelf al begreep.

William vraagt dus hoe zo iets heet in de wereld van de FDC. in de wereld van de FDC's heet dit niets, ofwel is geen fdc.

dus? ik snap niet echt wat je wil herhalen

@Sinbad, I'm only answering questions that are simple to William.

pay attention to the cancellation "first day cancellation" so that William at least knows what an fdc is.

the fact that he is totally unaware is evident from his 3 questions he asked at the beginning.

and just like I gave the answer to the answer to Rob. if it concerns a stamp of the same date, he must know what the date of issue is.

so furthermore I do not claim anything other than that there must simply be a stamp on the fdc with a 1st day cancellation.

and then Rob said that it can also be an ordinary postmark with an equal date.

and that is also allowed, that is also a 1st day cancellation if he knows what the issue date is.

envelope without stamp, is a stamped envelope, and forgot to send it to William, as William himself already understood.

So William asks what such a thing is called in the world of the FDC. in the world of FDCs this is called nothing, or is not an fdc.

So? I don't really understand what you want to repeat

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@williamherschel

See:

http: //www.filahome.nl/postzegel-encyclopedie/eerstedag-envelop.htm

for an understandable explanation

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Have a look at the catalog of Belgium.

@Tapir .

You shouldn't blame your ex-colleagues like that. You were the best, but unfortunately stopped.

~~ Now I have bought a box with the first day and there are also envelopes, later than E61 with address. How sensitive is this?

Is the story correct that there should always be two stamps on it, even if the envelope only has one stamp?

Actually, I've never really been concerned with them, because I just have them for beautiful ones, to enjoy. Now I have delved a little further and come to this.

~~ Dear forumer,

As in every holiday I am busy with my stamps.

Curious as I am, I browsed through some catalogs and found the term "mint condition".

What do people mean by this? Canceled, not canceled, I know MNH.

Is mint condition the same as MNH?

Greetz, William Herschel

~~ Best forumer,

Maybe a little too fussy, but I'm just curious how it is dealt with.

I have a double first day envelope. E189.

However, I was just looking closely and the order as stated in the catalog differs.

Does this also have a name in the FDC world? Or is this immediately rejected, trash can?

Greetz, William Herschel

@Sinbad, what are you worried about, that it should be simple proves the questions that William asks, apparently you want to explain all technical terms to him, that is your choice.

I would say read the 3 questions he asks, and it shows that William has no knowledge of the names of FDCs and what actually is or is not FDC.

He even has the idea that if the order of the stamps doesn't match any other FDC then throw the envelope in the trash.

@ Tapir, I don't need to be right or have the final say, but I think you too should read better what someone asks, and whether it is wise to use your knowledge to pick up everything that is not asked for.

I think William has understood everything with my answers if not, we will notice with possibly a new question.

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