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November 09, 2013 20:21

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What most collectors don't know is that there are 3 different 39c stamps!

I only find two: 370913 and 855539 (both from 2002?).

The second is a perforation variety with apparently "normal perforation", but what kind of abnormal perforation the first has is not mentioned. Can't be seen on the scans either, because they are completely identical.

Now I don't care about stamps, but if I were manager there, something like that would bother me."

Book warehouse!

The 2 numbers you mention refer to EXACTLY the same seal! How do you deal with this???? There are plenty of users using both numbers!

Where did this nonsense come from??? Thanks to the Collect-A-Rom, 2037 and 2037A have been adopted from the NVPH Special Catalog where A stands for the "normal perforation die".... And for the 39c there is NO abnormal perforation die, because if it were in the view of the NVPH that would be 2037B with an elliptical safety slit.

The NVPH has absolutely no in-house knowledge of the modern Netherlands. Nor of the printing techniques required to make stamps. The stamps of 39c they mean come from a hanging block with 5 stamps. The stamps are CLOSED, which means that a sharp contour - say a cake tin - goes through the stamp paper to the backing paper, but NOT further! In English this is called "kiss die-cut" as opposed to "die-cut" in which the cake tin also goes through the carrier paper. And then we have a STANS for Dutch. The NVPH calls this "deeper perforated" and reports that this exists for a number of values, but does NOT include these die-cut stamps in their catalog.

There are 3 variants of the 39c, each with a different drawing. With different issue dates in 2002, 2003 and 2006. Only for the variant from 2002 there is a die-cut 39c that is sold in presentation folders and/or annual sets. With some goodwill you could call it a "perforated variety".

We have 3 variants for the catalogue, of which there is a die-cut version of variant 1. This die-cut verse is simply based on the existing pressure before slitting! The imperforated [unslit] printed paper web was cut into hanging blocks [with 5 stamps] and these blocks were punched using a punching machine. turned into loose "seals". Depending on their place in the block, the loose stamps have a different back! So there are 5 of them!!! Apart from the theoretically possible prying loose of the backing paper and still using it for postage, we only have 5 perforation varieties!

The slit stamps can - if necessary - be divided into 18 [3 rows of 6] different stamps. There are some VERY obvious "plate errors" that the NVPH DOES NOT mention!

What does all this teach us??? That you CANNOT just TRUST an existing catalogue! Whether this concerns an NVPH, Michel, Stanley Gibbons or Yvert!

Using numbers from other catalogs is completely pointless and encourages errors.

Philatelic research is constantly changing and CataWikiPZ will have to follow developments in order not to get stuck in the idea that the sun revolves around the earth. In the past - on well-defensible grounds at the time - recorded data or numbers must be declared INVALID whereby - unfortunately - links to numbers will expire or those who used them will have to look again at which catalog number NOW their material belongs!

In the example of the 39c, those 2 numbers from above will need to be fused! Assuming that the image matches the 2002 variant, the 2003 and 2006 variants will have to be entered, after which users may very well have stamps that need to be linked to the 2003 or 2006 variant.

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