22of 22
  • 40 messages
  • February 05, 2013 10:53
25
posts
February 05, 2013 10:53
Received very old stamps from an inheritance but these are stuck in an equally old album. The question is: Is it wise to soak these stamps off? What is the best and safest way to soak off. Or is it wise to use them? Go to a good retailer to have this assessed. Mrs.gr, Seaworld.
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 294 messages
  • February 05, 2013 14:27
250
posts
February 05, 2013 14:27

You can just deviate almost anything except Ned. Indie. If you leave these stamps too long, everything will be removed so that you have nothing left. Leave it there for as long so that you can slide it off. Especially do not pull with tweezers. Just tell us which countries are in it.

Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 40 messages
  • February 05, 2013 16:43
25
posts
February 05, 2013 16:43
It is a Schwaneberger lettermark album, pre-printed, including stamps from: Belg. Den.Dl.Bavaria.Finl. Fr. Greek. Irish. Ita. Litauwen.lux. Ned. Nor. Austria. Portugal. Romania. Rus. Switzerland. Sp. Czech. Yugosl. Turk. Hungary. Egypt. Argentina. Brasil. Haiti. Venezuela. USA. Japan. China British colonies in Asia. Africa. USA. Australia French colonies in the Netherlands indie Curacao. Philippines And another Album Netherlands by: Jonge AVRO luistervinken 1936 Another question about deviating: is this done in water and then let it dry?
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 294 messages
  • February 05, 2013 19:00
250
posts
February 05, 2013 19:00

Lukewarm water gives the best results. I soak the stamps in lukewarm water and when the paper remains are off I throw them in a small container with ice-cold water and then dry them all on a newspaper, of course, with the image side down, but you already understood that I think. I don't see any country that can cause problems. Cut the pages into pieces that you soak otherwise you will need such a large container. I understand that they are not pasted in with stamp papers. If that is the case, remove the stamps with tweezers with stamp paper attached to run the least risk of breaking them. the stamps of Ned.Indie will cause the most problems and let someone who knows how to deviate them.

Good luck with it.

Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 40 messages
  • February 05, 2013 19:17
25
posts
February 05, 2013 19:17
Thank you, I sometimes sit down for a few days, do the stamps get smooth again after drying?
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 294 messages
  • February 05, 2013 20:15
250
posts
February 05, 2013 20:15

The next day, grab a stockbook or separate stock sheets and put them in there to let them dry under some heavy books for a week. After a week you will have all kinds of beautiful stamps and sorted by country.

Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 40 messages
  • February 05, 2013 20:18
25
posts
February 05, 2013 20:18
Well, simple and logical. Thanks.
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 1,890 messages
  • February 05, 2013 22:57
1K
added
5K
prices
10
info pages
1K
reviews
1K
posts
February 05, 2013 22:57

Seaworld, don't just cut it out and deviate from it, an old (neatly filled) preprint album has value as an album in addition to the value of the stamps. This value can sometimes be higher than the pasted stamps

Seaworld: Received very old stamps from an inheritance, but these are pasted in an equally old album. The question is: Is it wise to loosen these stamps ?

Answer

Allard: You can deviate from almost anything

This can not be????

For this almost empty Schaneberger 1941 you have to pay 130 euros, that is not for the few canceled stamps it contains

http://www.ebay.nl/itm/B0580-Kiloschwere-Schwaneberger-Schwarte-von-1941-bitte-ansehen-/221014906222?pt=Briefmarke&hash=item337583d56e

Old pre-war pre-print albums (preferably well filled) are very sought after and loved, especially in America, Germany and Asia, cutting old pre-print albums to smithereens is the same as cutting old envelopes to smithereens. stupid rookie mistake

Is the pre-print album still in good or good condition, my advice is to leave it as it is. It is one of the few parts of philately that is still increasing in value.

Collecting philatelic collectibles such as old preprint albums, catalogs and watermark finders is the fastest growing part of philately and the only philatelic part where prices have been rising for years. Coincidentally I also collect it myself from time to time, but it is almost impossible to get hold of, and unfortunately for me already too expensive, and the best time for such albums is certainly yet to come, as many ignorant cut and deviated malots are already there preceded.

And if you cut the Avro eavesdroppers 1936 you will definitely regret it :), Since most old preprint albums are German, French or English.

You sometimes get well-intentioned advice here from the drop in the ditch, some pruserij don't make me feel good, it brings tears to your eyes.

Can't Catwiki hire a pro so that beginners are properly helped?

Isn't it complete anti-advertising if Seawold has to tell the stamp club right away how fantastic he was helped at Catawiki with cutting up something with a potential capital or something special or rare from a collector's point of view?

I hope for Seawold's sake that he hasn't already put the scissors in.

Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 40 messages
  • February 06, 2013 08:13
25
posts
February 06, 2013 08:13
Thank you Sinbad, No, I have not yet used the scissors, and I will also go to a recognized dealer with this. There are also some loose stamps and I will deviate from them as explained above. Thank you for your advice , I can use this.
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 1,890 messages
  • February 06, 2013 10:46
1K
added
5K
prices
10
info pages
1K
reviews
1K
posts
February 06, 2013 10:46

Seaworld, collecting stamp collectibles is relatively a new sport, most recognized traders still live in the stone age (that's why so many are / are going to be bankrupt), you're a smart guy (I hope) watch / google on American, English and German e-bays, then you know much better what you have in your hands, then you will probably learn a lot more than to visit a so-called recognized PH who has been frustrated with having seen his turnover drop for 20 years because he remains specialized in the Netherlands.

The first 10 years of my collection I did not have a recognized guest appraise my stamps, when I did this for the first time after 10 years, my most expensive album was valued by him at 40 euros, where someone had made a bid of 2,700, (which I thought was too little so I wanted independent advice).

In the end I had (an unrecognized) specialist look and caught almost double what was was initially required. The Erkende trader (in this case a German, I must add that) therefore valued my album at less than 1% of the actual value: (That Erkend therefore often only refers to stamps of the country where the trader is employed / has received recognition from.)

Seaworld There are so many bunglers and self-proclaimed authorities walking around CW and in philately that you can ultimately only trust yourself and those who have long proven themselves to be it. An NVPH certificate is ultimately a WC duck, we think this man is also a WC duck.

In this one, don't take me too seriously and find it out thoroughly and thoroughly yourself, you can save a lot of money save / yield and you also learn something from it.

Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 294 messages
  • February 07, 2013 00:24
250
posts
February 07, 2013 00:24

My experience is that if you want to sell stamps you have to go to Germany because there you get 5x as much for it as here.

Everyone collects in their own way and as long as we accept each other in their own way. then we are on the right track.

I have had it myself with an empty Schaubek album of the world (1200 pages) from 1850 to 1928 which I wanted to sell. Received 50.00 in the Netherlands for it and also had to say thank you. In Germany it raised 1500.00 at an auction because 4 buyers were bidding against each other.

And then those wild stories in the newspaper. Stamp collection stolen from the Netherlands and owner says it had a value of 40000 , 00.

Someone from my own family bought a catalog from the Netherlands and added all the amounts and divided it by 2 and told me I get 25000 , 00 from you because stamps interest me not.

An elderly lady offered her collection. She didn't understand but wanted to 20000 , 00 guilders. Ultimately it was sold for 350.00 at auction. Lay people have prices in mind that we dream of and that you never get and if you say something about it, you are a scammer.

Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 1,890 messages
  • February 07, 2013 09:52
1K
added
5K
prices
10
info pages
1K
reviews
1K
posts
February 07, 2013 09:52

My experience is that if you want to sell stamps you have to go to Germany because there you get 5x as much as here.

Forget Germany,

China, South East Asia, Russia and Brazil are today's stamp buyers.

I have had it myself with an empty Schaubek album van de wereld (1200 pages) from 1850 to 1928 which I wanted to sell. Received 50.00 in the Netherlands for it and also had to say thank you. In Germany it raised 1500.00 at an auction because 4 buyers were bidding against each other.

Then why do you tell Seaworld that he can cut his Schaneberger album to pieces?

Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 1,276 messages
  • February 07, 2013 11:29
1K
added
5K
prices
25
info pages
1K
posts
February 07, 2013 11:29

Sinbad

Alard responds to the first message and there was no mention that it was a Schaneberger Album.

This only comes up in the second post.


Micho

Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 1,890 messages
  • February 07, 2013 11:58
1K
added
5K
prices
10
info pages
1K
reviews
1K
posts
February 07, 2013 11:58

Michael,

Seaworld: Received very old stamps from an inheritance, but these are pasted in an equally old album.

Alard: You can just deviate from almost anything

Seaworld: It's a Schwaneberger briefmarke album / Young AVRO eavesdroppers 1936

Alard: Lukewarm water gives the best result.

Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 40 messages
  • February 07, 2013 15:08
25
posts
February 07, 2013 15:08
Gentlemen, my question still caused some controversy, I believe. I am grateful to all of you for your answers and I assume that they are all well meant. In any case, my interest in this hobby has been aroused. I also have a lot of Netherlands MNH in Importa Juweel albums, I try to continue with this. The Schwaneberger album is not in my way, maybe I will deviate from the loose stamps that are between the pages. I have ever heard of lists that are sent to buy MNH stamps, do you have an opinion about that, or suggestions? For the time being I do not see myself visiting a stamp club or market. Just at home (but what is not can still come of course).
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 1,890 messages
  • February 07, 2013 18:00
1K
added
5K
prices
10
info pages
1K
reviews
1K
posts
February 07, 2013 18:00

Gentlemen, my question still caused some controversy, I believe

No, just read other topics on GW-Stamp Forum :)

I have ever heard of lists that are sent to buy MNH stamps, do you have an opinion or suggestions?

Sinbad has an extreme opinion about everything and also about the MNH, which are on average 10 to 20 times more expensive than your fellow collectors on Catawiki, Marktplaats or E-bay

Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 5 messages
  • March 03, 2013 09:41
March 03, 2013 09:41

One more question about deviations. The aforementioned method of deviation (AlardRoose) works perfectly with classic stamps, but often becomes a problem with the self-adhesive stamps. They do not always come off well, and some attempts have even ended fatally (goodbye, beautiful stamp). That's why I wait until I have enough material on paper to try one anyway. A good tip is always welcome.

Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 294 messages
  • March 03, 2013 15:16
250
posts
March 03, 2013 15:16

As for waltersuys. Belgian stamps recently a disaster. The Netherlands also has such a series. France is going reasonably well. see how below. One comes off well and the next very thin. My experience is to wait with those seals until you are almost done and then roll the seals under water with your thumb, but keep it under water. Continue until they are nice enough and stripped of the paper. American stamps in recent years is also a disaster. With everything, first try with a stamp that you have double.

Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 9 messages
  • August 05, 2014 10:26
August 05, 2014 10:26

hello

I read these postage loosening stories, and they are extremely interesting.

I have also just been loosening stamps, but there are some hungarian seals (magiar) that really do not want to be released, I have already tried all the ways indicated by you but nothing helps, those devils are stubborn.

is there anyone who has a solution for this?

gtje ultimacena

Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 1,890 messages
  • August 06, 2014 15:53
1K
added
5K
prices
10
info pages
1K
reviews
1K
posts
August 06, 2014 15:53
Ultimacena, if the previous owner, for want of better, ignorance or wantonness, has decided to stick the seals with tire glue, wallpaper glue or dragon spit, you can deviate until you weigh an ounce, sometimes it is so amateurishly pasted you just have to accept that it never comes loose again I once had an album with interesting old Turkish stamps stuck with Pritt-Stift, then it is unfortunately ready and go in the trash
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 9 messages
  • August 06, 2014 16:46
August 06, 2014 16:46

hello sinbad

the stamps still stick to the cut-out pieces of documents where they were originally affixed?

Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 224 messages
  • August 09, 2014 19:34
100
added
100
posts
August 09, 2014 19:34

Hold the stamp with the tweezers and hold it in the steam of the kettle, then in cold water for a while.

Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
22of 22