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Does anyone know how to remove the backs of the following items: 6794451 , 6794449 , 6794445 , 6794439 and 6794435 . The previous owner asked me to do this for personal reasons. I have already removed them from my collection, but an administrator or someone else from Catawiki has to do the catalog. Thanks in advance.

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July 15, 2017 12:35

We don't immediately cooperate with requests like that. Then the end is soon lost.

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July 15, 2017 13:41

Daniel you have them in your collection too, if you change them in the catalog and they are also undescribed copies ... win win

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July 15, 2017 15:45

You could be of the opinion that by posting these items (where personal data has not been made illegible) Vision is in violation of art. 11.2 (ii) f of the Terms of Use ("privacy rights of third parties").

Catawiki is released from any legal liability, but because it was not a deliberate violation, you could consider an exception in this case. to make. After all, images from other sites are also deleted without discussion.

The problem is that images are never actually deleted from the database. Even if an administrator removes them, or if Vision replaces them themselves, they remain visible through the History. Perhaps the most effective is to reject the items altogether.

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July 15, 2017 16:15

We receive these kinds of requests not every week, but certainly every month. Sometimes it concerns a business card of an employee who no longer wants to be associated with the company in question, the other time it is a discount card that is no longer valid and, according to the issuing body, can no longer be sold by collectors. Or a football picture of which the person portrayed does not want to be visible.

The general position of Catawiki is that everything was deliberately put into circulation without the distributor having control, has - let alone keeps - over where the object will eventually end up and what new owners do with it. In my experience, a phone call with the complainant and an explanation of the purpose and usefulness of the catalog has always solved the problem.

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July 15, 2017 19:32

that everything has been deliberately put into circulation

You are right when it comes to printed matter such as business cards. But this concerns items on which someone manually wrote a name and (current) private address, which was never intended for general distribution. As far as I am concerned, there is the limit.

If someone happens to get their hands on your old cell phone with private photos, nowadays you no longer have any control over what happens with it, but that is no argument to justify publication.

In addition, what is written on the card is not an integral part of the collector's item and therefore of no value to the catalog.

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July 15, 2017 20:28

You're right, I think. Administrators should make a decision and possibly spend time making texts unreadable so that the layout of the back can be preserved.

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I understand the problem, just why doesn't vision post a new image of

the backside?

And then he can "mask" the text anyway?

Does the problem seem solved to me?

I personally think that the back of a card should be an obligation in this section with "post it" you can simply mask the private data but then the item is complete. in.

That it can still be seen through the history, well, that's a pity.

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July 16, 2017 13:55

You could also make the address details of private individuals illegible in this section (unless they are the details of the importer himself). Of course with a "statute of limitations" of, for example, 40 years. (Which coincides with the introduction of the postcode in the Netherlands in 1977.)

P.S. Has anything ever been done with the results of this discussion: Postcards from old box ?

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So address details and sender are always illegible?

You often do not know the name of the importer like Dick52 (was he born in 52 or is he 52)

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But Dick52 knows himself, right? ;-) I just mean that an importer may make his own data public. Although that is indeed difficult to verify.

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Thanks for the comments. I will take and post other photos. Will explain to the previous owner that they have been replaced but still remain in the history. This seems to me to be the best solution or reject them completely, then I enter them again, then there is no history left, right?

@Metalfigures unfortunately they are not unwritten and they are not unwritten either, I have the back removed.

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Rejecting and re-entering seems to me the best solution. I had already told Vision that I am actually against such a change / deletion for basically the same arguments that Arco gives. Postcards are usually collected here when they are addressed, they have then traveled, as it is called. Then as a collector you can see from the stamp how old a card is. A collector does not look at the addressee. In that regard, the address could then be removed. But in order to recognize a card properly, it is also important to see if it has address lines on it and then removal becomes a lot more difficult (precision work takes a lot of time). Furthermore, a card here in the catalog is to be collected and not for general publicity. . In that respect, the card never really comes out into the open, which an applicant is so afraid of. This is a select group of collectors among a select group of people who use the CataWiki Collection Platform (never actually want to use the word, but must use it to distinguish it from the auction part), and then another personal reason as an administrator not to complete the address rules. It is then that, despite a possible proposed year limit, it is an almost impossibly big job for the administrators to correct it. Administrators are already very busy, so in conclusion I just say leave it alone, but if Vision really has such a problem with these cards, I can only recommend re-entering them.
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Excuse for item 4386777 the back must be gone and another card I have from same building.

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Back cover has been removed

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Please, can collector GUINEVIERRE be unlinked from # 1024459 'Hearts Of Soul' and linked to # 4944405 also 'Hearts 0f Soul' Card was duplicated, overwritten it with another and later found another collector 'hung'
Apologies for the inconvenience
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@Lexxel
Please never overwrite an existing catalog item with a completely different item. Please leave that to the administrators ...
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Won't happen again, but sometimes it is useful ..
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Won't happen again, but sometimes it is useful ..

No, this is not convenient. Never change an item into another item. We also cannot link a collector to another item.
The changes to # 1024459 have been disapproved and the new item has also been disapproved because this is a duplication is.
Please reenter the new item and enter the correct back of # 1024459 as well.
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Am planning to import a number of postcards, wondered whether it is permitted to place a circulated card without shielding name and address as a scan/photo. Without back and with "masking" comes across as incomplete. Postcards have either belonged to the 1st owner (who can decide for themselves whether it can do any harm) but in general have ever been disposed of or sold at fairs or shops, you would say that is the responsibility of people who do not have anything with name and address throw the paper bin. The instructions for entering 2nd scan do not yet contain anything about this issue. The fact that LD would not be responsible for unwanted visible name and address is irrelevant to me, I would like to know what is allowed or not allowed.
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See also the discussion in this old thread. I myself am on the line of stripspeldjes , so unreadable name and address data. Do keep the reading lines, etc., visible as much as possible.
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stripspeldjes

I will apply it so with caution.
But wouldn't it be wise to adjust the instruction text block for the catalog?

Actually, when we talk about the usual terms "circulated and uncirculated" postcards, it is strange that it should not be visible in a catalogue, but when selling you must (rightly) state "circulated" and a buyer would like that back. want to see... to prevent him from purchasing an unexpectedly very ugly rear. Ergo in my shop I would then provide it with a photo ... Or do I run the risk of coming before Den Rechter due to privacy?
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A judge will rarely be called in for this anyway.
It's fine if you show those backs in your own shop.
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Harry56 I don't think you need to worry unless you post a postcard with Elon Musk's address ;-)

At the time, I only mentioned the legal implications as an argument to remove an item against basic principles, and only at the special request of the person whose data it contains.
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stripspeldjes Collectioneur

It actually makes sense too. You should be careful with anything that has even a little to do with privacy. As a simple example, my wife also finds it annoying when I put something for sale that belonged to us or family with a name on it. No matter how collectable old curiosities in particular can be. Elon Musk should pose the least problem, everyone knows where he lives. But it's clear to me, thank you!
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