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On another platform (colnect) it is claimed that this stamp booklet #554847 appears with a blue and a green cover color. According to the NVPH catalog there is only one cover color and that is blue.
Is there anyone who can confirm whether booklet PB34a does/does not have a green variant?
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Pietertje1961 where do you see that on that site. The booklet with the 4 x 75c inversion stamps PB42a has a different green cover. The stamp booklet is depicted there with the contents from 1986 and the cover of stamp booklet 42a from 1991. The stamp booklet from 1991 (PB42a) is also depicted with the cover of the stamp booklet from 1986 (PB34a).

Case 'wiki.'
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Pietertje1961 colnect is far more reliable (even not perfect)  in many ways particularly variants than LD catalog. 

Most of us have no times on a voluntary basis to improve LD catalog  that seems that if you modify with expert information the LD catalog anybody can change in your back the information you input and are the good ones to input a wrong one. LD is a total wiki.

LD admin do their best but they surely can’t do and control everything. Colnect  doesn’t give value but the admin have better tools to control and a team of great experience and experts , ( perhaps they are paid for what they do ? )


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In this case Colnect, the Colnect catalog is also a 'wiki' by the way, is wrong.
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Esquerdo what I want to state in my first post is that Colnect is a far better wiki catalog than LD catalog when it come for variants and I also stated that it can be wrong as no catalog is perfect including famous Michel, Yvert, SG, …paper catalogs who pay experts for variants identification.

Ok Colnect is wrong for that case and LD catalog OK for this case, after LD is at least at over 80 % made by Dutch volunteers and Colnect is more international than LD is. To be clear no judgement it is only fact to state that LD is still mainly Dutch and Dutch speaking Belgium collectors.

So there are more chance that LD is better on Dutch stamps than is Colnect for Dutch stamps. LD is far from perfect for GB or French Philately.

My opinion is that you cannot rely 100 % on any paper catalog alone (you need to for France at least 3 papers catalogs)  that same for online wiki , there are always errors particularly in difficult subjects like variants on stamps booklets.

Please don’t see any judgement in this post as I know how difficult even impossible task it is to do the best ever catalog.
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Frenchstamps I agree with much of what you post. However, when someone asks what is the correct listing,

colnect is far more reliable (even not perfect) in many ways particularly variants than LD catalog.

Does not contribute to answering the question asked.

Also stating that

LD is a total wiki.

and ignoring that the Colnect catalog also is a 'wiki' creates a narrative that is false.
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Esquerdo I reported exactly what you wrote to Colnect. Then some administrator/wise guy responds that booklet 34a exists with both a blue and a green cover.
I'll make one more attempt with reference to the NVPH catalogue.
Thank you for your response.
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Sorry Frenchstamps but if colnect is better and more reliable then why are you here 'wasting' your time.
Actually you are making anti-advertisement for LD.
Can't that be the intention...?
In my opinion it is better to remain silent about that.
And used both channels...
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buizer 

You don’t read really that I said NEVER I did anti-advertisement for LD, I think that LD catalog is a good one , a work in progress.

Read before telling about me what I never said. I said that some part of philately like variants ,  ooklets are difficult and there are error everywhere particularly bad photos to illustrate even in paper catalog that you pay like Michel, Yvert……. 

For me as a wiki LD catalog is a good one  if user respect rules and do it carefully and don’t modify what is good. I use LD and Colnect and paper catalogs, so I consider that cross checking various sources is useful in some specific specialised part of philately respect a lot LD work of volunteers and administrators.

IS IT CLEAR NOW




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It's simple anyway.
Every wiki contains errors and not everything is included.
Both in wiki A, wiki B, wiki C, etc...
Here you are on the LastDodo wiki.
And not on C.....t.
LastDodo cannot be held accountable for its operation in relation to other collection sites.
LasttDodo charts its own course. .

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buizer the first post Pietertje1961 quote Col..t an other wiki so this why I quote this other wiki, I was not willing to write about this other wiki. It is simple.

If I understand, the rule of this forum is to speak mainly about LD and avoid to write about other wiki ? 

That is fair I will focus on LD only.

It is not also to give collectors advices on philately and what are the real market price according to quality ? If so I will keep my experience for myself not sharing anything.

At least stating that it is better to avoid all stamps with rush , I think that it is a basic requirement that old collectors in clubs were warning young ones. But I suppose that everyone here know the problem so stay quiet and say nothing about rust too ? 

You are administrator after all so you are the chief and as decided to invest my time elsewhere than improving the catalog , travelling and enjoying life with lovely girls rather than contributing I let alone in this forum ,

You should be happy without me writting in this forum ? My lovely young 32 years old girlfriend Valerie she laught behind my shoulder as I write and she send you a kiss be happy, have a nice weekend tomorrow we fly to italia for a romantic stay in Italy.
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Pietertje1961 as I wrote before, they switched the two covers. It's not just a matter of color, but also of design. The design for PB34a did not yet exist when that booklet was in circulation.
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It's not just a matter of color, but also of design. The design for PB34a did not yet exist when that booklet was in circulation.
Thanks for this addition. This should be sufficient argument to adjust it.
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